What the White House thinks of the polls

Following up on an item from yesterday, there have been several new national polls released, all of which show remaining support for the war in Iraq evaporating quickly. I’ve often wondered what the Bush gang thinks about results like these. Yesterday, we got a hint.

At yesterday’s White House press briefing, there were plenty of questions about the president’s policies in Iraq, as well as several references to new polling data. Tony Snow, when he wasn’t feigning ignorance, seemed to have an explanation for plummeting national support.

“[I]f you take a look at poll data — and there’s a lot of discussion about that — what’s interesting is that a majority of the American public not only thinks that we’re capable of winning, but we should. I think that there is understandable apprehension about the situation in Iraq. And what people want to hear is, how do you assess the situation and how do you wish to address it? And those are questions the President is going to answer.

“…I’m trying to get at what may be some of the causes for public discontent of late, which is there is a sense that you have a government that itself has been at war with itself, rather than working together on important tasks. This is an opportunity to step forward and work together. And as I’ve said, when it comes to the business of, do you want to win, the answer is yes; and, do you think we can win, the answer is yes.”

It’s often hard to tell if Snow actually buys into his own spin, but is it possible the White House really believes Americans have turned against the administration’s war policy because they perceive that the U.S. government “has been at war with itself”? Does that even make any sense?

Far be it for me to give the Bush gang advice about public opinion, but maybe — I’m going to go out on a limb here — Americans oppose the war because the president’s policy doesn’t work, doesn’t make sense, and has cost the nation dearly in blood and treasure.

He probably wouldn’t like it, but there’s a better rhetorical option for Snow to consider.

Instead of pretending that Americans believe something they don’t, Snow could simply argue that the public is mistaken and that the polls don’t matter. It would take some political courage, but the White House could delicately argue, “We respectfully disagree with the nation, and will move forward with or without national support, because in the end our policy will be vindicated.”

To be sure, this would be wrong, because the policy is failing and will almost certainly continue to fail, but at least it would be coherent. Saying that astonishingly bad poll numbers are really indicative of an electorate that supports the White House tack is utterly ridiculous — and more than a little embarrassing.

Indeed, just hours after a USAT/Gallup poll shows that a combined 61% believe we either cannot or will not win the war, Snow insists the public believes we can and will win the war. For a White House that seems scarily out of touch, and more than a little delusional, this isn’t helping.

For what it’s worth, a new LAT/Bloomberg poll showed the same results as all the others.

The American public has abandoned President George W. Bush on the Iraq war and is looking to Congress for a way out that includes a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops, according to a Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll.

The national survey shows a disaffected public that has grown more sour about the conflict since September, with only about one in seven believing Bush’s claim that the U.S. is winning in Iraq.

More than half of Americans want to set a schedule to withdraw all troops, a significant change from September, when 44 percent said the U.S. should stay as long as it takes. “There is a new level of discontent” over the war, said Susan Pinkus, the Times polling director. “It’s hurting the economy and it’s hurting other issues. This is all the president can concentrate on.”

By better than 2-to-1 margins, the public supports two key recommendations of an independent bipartisan panel called the Iraq Study Group. The panel’s report called for direct U.S. negotiations with Iran and Syria about the future of Iraq and possibly withholding economic and military support from the Iraqi government unless it makes progress on political reforms and national reconciliation.

With almost two-thirds saying Iraq is in a civil war, the public’s top priority for the next Congress is setting a timetable for withdrawal.

If you listen to Tony Snow, this is proof that the White House is right on track.

***If you listen to Tony Snow, this is proof that the White House is right on track.***

That track ends at the edge of an extremely high cliff—and the Bush Express (not to be confused with the McCain Express, which expresses stupidity “only” most of the time) is heading for it—throttles wide, and the Snowman shoveling coal into the firebox as fast as he can….

  • Don’t worry Tony, we’re just about to turn the corner, and there’s a light at the end of the tunnel.

    Of course what you’re seeing is the headlight of “the Bush Express”, and you’re going to have a collision with yourself.

    Maybe it’s time to “make a new reality”, this one seems to be biting you on the ass pretty hard lately.

  • Now the Bush admin tries to pretend that Congress was an independent branch of the government. When Snow talks about the low opinion Americans have of Congress, he is looking at poll data for the 109th Republican Congress. The 109th is gone and the entity with bad poll numbers now is the President.

  • It’s all code, to the base and to the corporate sponsors.
    Translation “It’s the liberals fault and we are staying the course.”

  • “…what’s interesting is that a majority of the American public not only thinks that we’re capable of winning, but we should…”

    That’s not how I read the polls, but maybe I need a refresher course in reading comprehension skills. That is in addition to Basic mathematics 101.

    This guy makes Baghdad Bob look credible.

  • The empirical data is in: George Bush and his advisers elected to go to war under a never-before-tried foreign policy of “preemptive strike,” using deception, falsehoods and hyperbole to sell the preemptive war to the American people. They, since, have repeatedly miscalculated and bungled their foreign policy at the great and formidable expense of innocent life and American service personnel. Though they hold out hope that history will vindicate them, they will no doubt on their deathbeds have the epiphanies they need now – the war in Iraq is a disaster, and the President and his advisers are culpable in bringing us such a mess. Mr. President needs to wake up and smell the coffee, take square responsibility for this debacle and offer the American people a plan to extricate our service personnel who are currently, and senselessly, in harms way at what is in essence Mr. Bush’s whim and caprice. -Kevo

  • “a majority of the American public not only thinks that we’re capable of winning, but we should.” – Tony Snowjob

    And a majority of Americans don’t think this administration is winning, has a plan to win, or is capable of changing strategies to win, or would recognize a winnable strategy if it hit them in the face repeatedly.

  • You left out a few words Tony – “what’s interesting is that a majority of the American public not only thinks that we (WERE) capable of winning, but (THAT) we should (HAVE).”

    It’s always a fine line between the truth and an outright lie.

  • The falling support results from Republicans and conservatives abandoning the President and his policies. As the White House itself now concedes that the policy is not working and that a new policy is needed (a “New Way Forward”), it is not surprising that support for the old policy has cratered.

    The issue is whether the White House will be able to gain back Republicans and Conservatives when he rolls out the new policy. My guess is that he gets some but not all of those people back but makes no inroads on moderates, liberals, Democrats, and independents. Mid thirties, is my guess.

  • Instead of pretending that Americans believe something they don’t, Snow could simply argue that the public is mistaken and that the polls don’t matter. It would take some political courage, but the White House could delicately argue, “We respectfully disagree with the nation, and will move forward with or without national support, because in the end our policy will be vindicated.”

    Bush tried this last week when he met with the Democrats and tried to compare himself to Harry Truman and the Korean War. Didn’t fly.

    Although this is exactly the policy Cheney said before the election would be followed after November 7, regardless of the outcome.

    They may not be saying this, but as we all know “actions speak louder than words” and this is exactly what they are doing – without the “respectful disagreement,” which with W always becomes arrogant disregard.

  • Can we start a new meme here and say that Tony Snow and George Bush are playing shuffleboard on the deck of the Titanic after the iceberg hit?

    The ship of state is going down fast and they still think that playing headgames with the press is going to save them?

    Anyone that delusional would be hauled off to an asylum by now for their own good. Not a bad idea, really. Not a bad idea at all……..

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