When a president answers the phone at 3 a.m.

After John McCain and Hillary Clinton both ran campaign ads touting their abilities to answer the White House phone at 3 a.m. and deal with an unknown crisis, it’s become one of the more talked about facets of the campaign. But exactly how often does a president get a 3 a.m. call, and what’s expected of them when they do?

The WaPo’s Michael Abramowitz had an interesting front-page item on the subject today.

There is no dispute, as a dramatic campaign ad from Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign suggests, that presidents get plenty of phone calls at 3 a.m.

A sleeping Ronald Reagan was alerted early in the morning to what turned out to be the accidental shoot-down of an Iranian passenger plane. George H.W. Bush was informed after he went to bed of an apparent coup against Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev. Bill Clinton received word in the middle of the night that negotiations had broken down in the case of Elian Gonzalez, the Cuban boy whose relatives were battling the federal government to prevent him from returning home.

But in none of these cases were presidents asked to make major decisions. Instead, former White House advisers say, these calls — and countless others like them — were largely aimed at keeping the president informed of critical developments, particularly ones that might cause embarrassment if the public learned that a commander in chief had slept through the episode undisturbed.

“In my experience, I cannot think, off the top of my head, of a snap decision that had to be made in the middle of the night,” said Henry A. Kissinger, the former secretary of state and national security adviser. In fact, he said in an interview, “I think that one should reduce the number of snap decisions to be made.”

That’s really the point that seems to have been lost in all the fuss about the 3 a.m. discussion. The point isn’t who’ll have the snap judgment to deal with a breaking crisis in the middle of the night; the point should be who’s worked to ensure that there won’t be a breaking crisis that requires a snap judgment.

While the scenario is not inconceivable, former presidential advisers and historians say that it misses the point that good presidential decision-making plays out over time, and in more mundane ways.

“It’s a bit of a specious issue, somehow implying you need better judgment in the middle of the night,” said onetime Clinton administration official David Rothkopf, author of a book on the National Security Council, and who describes himself as a Hillary Clinton supporter.

The recollections of Kissinger, senior advisers in both parties and presidential historians offer an interesting counterpoint to the suggestion by the Clinton ad that critical decisions are often made in the dead of night.

In most instances, there just isn’t much a president can do anyway. “I had a very simple formula: If it affected the life of a U.S. citizen, you woke the president,” said Kenneth M. Duberstein, Reagan’s last chief of staff. But he said: “At 3 o’clock in the morning, unless there is a nuclear holocaust coming, there is not much the president has to decide. What you are doing is starting to put into gear the response of the U.S. government on behalf of the president, not necessarily by the president.”

Based on Abramowitz’s report, it appears that none of the last four president has been woken in the middle of the night to give an order in the midst of a crisis. (In my favorite anecdote, it appears that Clinton was usually the one making, not getting the calls at 3 a.m. John Podesta, one of Clinton’s chiefs of staff, said, “I would get calls at 2 o’clock in the morning. The phone would ring, the White House operator would say the president is calling, and I would be stone asleep…. He would be watching C-SPAN in the middle of the night, and he would say, ‘I think we ought to make this argument.'”)

I doubt it’s going to happen, but we should probably put all this 3 a.m. talk to rest. As an argument about presidential abilities, it doesn’t appear to make a lot of sense.

The two candidates most likely to make the wrong decision if awakened at 0300 run ads how good they’d be. The one candidate most likely to make a good decision in that circumstance mostly avoids the question as irrelevant.

  • CB points out the nonsense behind the ad, but of course, it wasn’t intended to make sense, it was meant to frighten people into voting for the candidate with more “experience” — a claim that itself is largely nonsense.

    On the other hand, it might be fun to lock all the candidates of both parties in a sleep research lab for a month and wake them up at different times every night (because, after all the call might come at 3:37) and subject them to a series of random questions.

  • McCain:
    Snore
    Ring
    “Iran’s acting up.”
    “Bomb ’em.”
    Snore.

    Bush:
    Snore
    Ring
    Snore
    Ring
    Snore
    “You’re reached the hotline voice mail.Your message is important to us. Please leave a message at the tone.”
    Snore

    Hillary:
    Snore
    Ring
    “I’ll get right back to you.”
    Dialing.
    “John, I need some advice.”

    Obama:
    Snore.
    Snore.
    Snore.

  • The old nautical adage is germane:

    The superior seaman employs his superior judgement and foresight to avoid ever having to demonstrate his superior skill.

  • And the most likely 3am call…that an underage first child is wrapped around the toilet bowl of a D.C. watering hole with his/her pants around his/her ankles can be handled by the secret service just fine.

    Beep52 @2, hits the nail on the head. Unfortunately, if we had an informed, rational electorate we wouldn’t have the mess we have today…the mess that’s most likely to lead to 3am phone calls anyhow. (of course the above example is no business of ours)

  • The whole premise of the Abramowitz article was idiotic. The “3 AM” ad was never about literally answering the phone at 3 AM; it was about dealing with an unexpected crisis. I don’t think the Post writers have learned the concept of metaphor yet.

  • The 3am controversy needs to be locked away in the same file of silliness as the ticking timebomb justification for torture. Just like with the stupid Tim Russert questions in debates, we seem to rely too much on conjecture and hypotheticals to make our decisions about the next president.

  • Hill is trying to appeal to the folks that have lived in fear since 9/11. That’s the Bush base. The duck tape crowd.
    She’s not talkin’ to us.
    Never the less, I’d rather she had not run the ad at all.

  • Harold (6): I don’t think the Post writers have learned the concept of metaphor yet.

    But the 3AM metaphor suggests that the President doesn’t access to advice, and that he or she has experience in handling instantaneous crises of huge proportion. So it’s still an absurd metaphor, since none of the candidates have that experience. And nor do any of those who were bypassed.

  • ah, if only perception and reality were synonymous.

    the 3 a.m. (911) ad hit its target: scared mommies worried about the boogieman in the backyard.

    “who ya gonna call? obamabusters”
    (sung to the tune of… well, you already know)

  • The ad had intentional subliminal messages–is the woman going to have to call 911 (not 9/11)? is there a black man lurking outside? do you want a black man near your towheaded daughter?

  • The ad was intended to portray the FACT that women get up and tend to their family at early hours when men and children are still sleeping. It was intended to resonate with women in the midwest who routinely get up before dawn to cook breakfast, pack kids lunches, and do work they didn’t get to the day before. Women are used to doing that and they understand that the ad was not about war. Men think it is only about fear and sabre rattling. Women know that SOMEONE has to get up with the baby, put the coffee on, turn up the heater (in old days that many of us still remember). That is the level that this ad resonates on with WOMEN, not fear.

    The idea is to portray a woman as someone who can get up in the middle of the night when there is a crisis somewhere in the world (e.g., different time zones) because women are used to being the ones who get up in the middle of the night. It portrays the job of president as something requiring skills that a WOMAN already has, not something foreign to what women do.

    There is no red phone in that ad, other than the one MEN have projected onto it through their own fears.

  • Are you suggesting that Hillary Clinton has ever done any of those things? Cooked breakfast, packed lunches? She has never even lived in a real home. I am a woman and that ad did not resonate with me at all. I found it offensive on many levels.

  • This is just like the “ticking time bomb” scenario that torture advocates try to use to scare people into believing that what happens on “24” actually happens in real life.

    This may just be me, but every time I hear about the “3 a.m.” ad, this always pops in my head:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UO3PAQodYg

    It’s doing it right now. Thanks, everyone.

  • Of course, they don’t mention whether the 3 AM call is on the weekend… ’cause if it is, then I would be quite awake to answer it, but probably way too drunk to make a decision which other people would like! 😉

  • The ad was intended to portray the FACT that women get up and tend to their family at early hours when men and children are still sleeping.

    Really? I do the 4am feedings in our house every night.

  • Mary (12). Would you vote for someone because they are used to getting up at three in the morning? Let’s hope there are no emergencies at nine at night, because your president is going to be quite exhausted.

  • You have to be able to imagine someone doing a job before you will vote for them to do it. Imagining a woman getting up at 3 am to deal with a crisis somewhere in the world is easier if you remind them that women already get up routinely in the night to deal with crises in the home.

    Kate and others, it does not matter whether Hillary ever got up at 3 am with Chelsea (I believe she did) or whether you did yourself. What matters is that many women do get up that way and they are the same women who may think in more traditional ways about women’s roles. You’ve probably never eaten a farm breakfast (with mashed potatoes, gravy, biscuits, steak and ham, and eggs) but I have. Someone has to cook it in order for the family and farm hands to eat it before sunrise and farm work begins (my experience), or before men go off to the plant or to mines to engage in physical calorie-burning labor. Hillary ran that ad in Ohio not NY or CA. You may come from a background where everyone has nannies, but Hillary did not and neither have her female supporters. Clinton is 60 and when she was in her 20s having Chelsea, they were not wealthy people with staff to do everything. Of course she got up. Husbands did not in those days, nor do they in most households, although I applaud Hank and the small number of men who help with babies these days.

  • Reading some of the comments, proves that stereotypes are still doing great in our society.

    After all each person reads into that ad something that resonates with their personal experience. Everything we see goes through our personal biased filter. Unless you realize that, you won’t be able to make a rational decision. Rational decisions are made AFTER you have made sure and checked whether there are other options on the table.

    From the responses, it seems that there are still a lot of people who go with the knee-jerk reactions and ‘following their gut’ which – more often than not – ends up being the wrong decision.

    Does anybody need to be reminded about how Bush trusts his gut, and how that has turned out?

  • Mary@12, when the baby wakes up at 3:00 AM in my house, I usually get up, not my wife. I’m the first one up in the morning, make the coffee and frequently pack the lunches. Your stereotypes are seriously out of date.

  • to Mary @21

    Since Chelsey turned 28 just last month, that would have made Hillary around 32 when her first and only child was born. Chelsey was born in 1980.

    You are correct that people who have gone through the same experiences you did, will probably have similar feelings you do. You are sure that it’s only a small number of men who partake in the chores you attribute to women, which is your filter. Farmers and Miners, the ones you refer to in regards to women having to get up in the middle of the night, are a minority in America.

    I could go on and on, but you’d still be convinced about your belief systems, it’s your filter. Disclaimer: there is nothing wrong with your filter, but it does give you a biased view. Why do you think so many people still believe Bush is going a good job? Even his historic low approval ratings are considered high, when it comes to people who refuse to see the facts.

  • Explain to me AGAIN why I am willing to vote for a Dem that sides with a Repub to ATTACK another Dem.

  • You’ve probably never eaten a farm breakfast (with mashed potatoes, gravy, biscuits, steak and ham, and eggs) but I have.

    You’re right, I haven’t. Neither have the vast majority of people who saw that ad. This is an overwhelmingly urban country, if you haven’t noticed.

    Around our house the kids are too old for 4 am feedings, but I’ve done a VERY large number of “Daddy, I’m scared” “Daddy I can’t find my blankie/favorite doll/bear/whatever” “Daddy my bed’s wet” “Daddy I need medicine” calls from 1 to 5 am. I avoid waking Mom as if her sleep’s interrupted you hear about it all the next day.

    The ad was general fearmongering, and appeals to a stereotypical notion of a patriarchal protector. The twist was that it’s a woman, Hillary, doing the protecting.

  • I took paternity leave when our daughter was born for six months and did all the late night feedings. Of my five closest friends, two became stay-at-home dads when the kids came while their wives went back to work, two essentially split the child care duties down the middle. Only one went back to work and left child care duties primarily to the mother.

    This is certainly a recent development, I’ll admit, but it’s far more widespread among men in their 30s and 40s than some might think.

  • From Hillary’s Wikipedia blurb:
    She was later named the first female partner at Rose Law Firm in 1979

    Then in, 1980 she gives it all up to wipe pablum from Chelsea’s mouth? Rrright

    “Mary” please try to be a little less myopic. Jesus. I was born in 55. Both my parents worked. With Mom as a telephone operator working split shifts (and yeah, she was answering the 3am call – at the switchboard!) and Dad building highways, they worked it out. Cooking breakfast, putting us to bed. And no, we weren’t “well off” but in those days if your Mom worked chances are you did have an African American woman in the house filling in the gaps just as we did. Katie was my surrogate Mom for my first 5 years and still a part of our family. My grandparents (on both sides) were tobacco farmers where everyone was involved, in breakfast, hard hard labor, and just about everything else.

    These days if women choose the traditional role and stay in the home, it’s often a choice! Myself I took advantage of doors opening in non-traditional roles. I didn’t need a movement or a label to get what I wanted, I just went for it. Something you seem incapable of doing without legislation.

    I can certainly see though why you so hardily support Senator Clinton. You believe she’s coming to liberate, when many us liberated ourselves decades ago.

    I am woman hear me roar 😉

  • There is no red phone in that ad, other than the one MEN have projected onto it through their own fears.

    Mary’s right. That ringing that sounds like the hotline is really just a timer set to rouse Hillary from her desk and her all-night policymaking so she can get started on the White House farm breakfast. That early morning cabinet briefing goes much better when everyone’s had a good breakfast…

  • I am 39 with two young kids, and every other father I know my age does the nighttime feedings/wakings, etc.

    The only reason I was of the hook on feedings is my wife co-slept and nursed. If anything else went wrong in the night, i was the one who responded.

    Wake up and join us in the 21st century, Mary.

  • “In my experience, I cannot think, off the top of my head, of a snap decision that had to be made in the middle of the night,” said Henry A. Kissinger…

    Who is this Kissinger person? I’ve never seen him on 24, where doin’s a-transpire between midnight & 6 a.m. routinely.

  • Bush’s 3am came in that Florida classroom . He didn’t exactly leap into action .

  • to mary’s posts let me amend my post #10 from “scared mommies” to “scared single mommies”, since no male was present in that ad, and every household i know, my own included, and in spite of the new hollywood stereotype of the ass-kicking karate wielding chick whoopin’ up on the gangbangers, it’s the man who gets up when unfamiliar sounds arise to check them out. not to say that women can’t or won’t, but that ad was clearly aimed – on one of many levels – at male abandonment and HRC coming to the rescue to save these mommies from those bastards.

    frankly i’m surprised the clinton campaign didn’t create a version of that commercial with black children and a black mom, thinking that it would be especially effective in light of their racial & gender stereotypes.

  • But I thought Jack Bauer called all the time, with vague details about bombs and terrorist and Jimmy Hoffa.

    The real point is what experience can anyone have with Presidential calls and imminent decisions without having experienced it. Do Senators get calls at 3am about anything that would effect sleeping children ?

    Kissinger. For his “theory” to ring true, Bush’s would phone would have to ring all night long and I think we all know Mr “now your ass is covered” isn’t let anything mess with his nine hours a night.

  • Clinton is 60 and when she was in her 20s having Chelsea, they were not wealthy people with staff to do everything. — Mary, @21

    Mary, are you’re reading your biography of Clinton from some alternate history book?

    1) Clinton was born in ’47.
    2) Chelsea was born in 1980, making Clinton 33 — not “in her 20s” — at the time she gave birth.
    3) Clinton became the First Lady of Arkansas in 1979 — a year before Chelsea was born. She would have — definitely — had “staff to do everything”; it came with the territory.

    Problem with weaving your own reality is that it’s much too easy to unravel…

  • OK Mary, you’ve opened my eyes. I’m seeing the ad anew. Clearly it was asking,
    At 3AM, when the middle east just won’t settle down, who do you trust to come up with a soothing story?
    At 3AM, when some new bioweapon is causing an international tummy upset, who do you want mothering the world with warm milk and a loving caress?
    At 3AM, when some foreign stock market can’t sleep and gets a little cranky, who do you want to sit up with them and cajole them back to calmness?
    At 3AM, when some pet dictator has a bad dream or has lost their teddy bear, who do you want comforting them?
    At 3AM, when a French lapdog or a British poodle has an accident in the kitchen, who do you want to mop up the mess?
    At 3AM, when your not-quite-sufficiently-adult child or client state has a run-in with the local police force, who do you want to squelch the inquiry (no, sorry, the younger Bush is ineligible, and the older Bush has already used up all his favors covering for Junior),
    At 3AM, when you get a call that your husband is MIA and RATAAH (running around town at all hours), who has the wealth of experience to deal with such a problem?
    Evidently, the answer has to be Hillary.

    But here’s my problem. Notwithstanding how I’ve now been set straight on all this, that danged ad still makes me worry about whom I would trust to have managed things so that international crises at any hour are least likely. I keep asking myself, who has demonstrated the judgement to avoid starting unnecessary wars and the foresight to do the unglamorous work of securing lose nukes, and who has expressed a willingness to talk to our enemies during normal working hours so that they don’t feel the need to come calling in the wee hours? Sorry Mary, but this still leaves me favoring Obama.

  • Seems like Mary is experiencing quite an educational moment in the comment section. That is of course, if she’s still reading the remaining comments here.

    Either way it has been educational to hear different points of view; especially when those points of view tend to make sense and you end up adjusting your own point of view to better reflect reality.

    N.Wells made a good point @36 by wondering whether you rather have someone answering the phone in the middle of the night, or someone who plans ahead and avoiding having the phone ring in the first place.

    My money is on the person who knows how to plan ahead, because if they plan ahead, they will be smart enough to answer the phone in the unlikely event it does ring at 3AM.

  • The narrator’s voice was male.

    I don’t see much difference between 20’s and early 30’s but I take your point. Clinton may have been in the Governor’s mansion but that doesn’t mean she had a nanny and other staff doing everything. I don’t believe Clinton was ever a farm wife, nor did I ever say she was (it appeals to voters who were), but I do believe she got up in the middle of the night with her child and Bill did not (especially as Governor).

    The ad says nothing about foreign dictators or bombing or any of the other Jack Bauer stuff guys like to project onto it. The more the world appears to be that kind of place, the less someone who is female fits into it, so it is to their purpose to define it that way. The world is more mundane and consists of much more talking, organizing, planning and negotiating than launching commando raids. But, interpreting Clinton’s ad in softer tones makes her seem more qualified and we cannot have that, can we?

  • Mary @38 said “.. guys like to project onto it.”

    That is what I’ve been trying to say all along. In other words: You project stuff as you experience it through your own filter.

    Mary you’re saying that guys are projecting Jack Bauer stuff onto it; which may be very true, but aren’t you projecting your mother-as-a-caretaker stuff onto it?

    Why do you think you got so many personal responses to your statements? Exactly because you projected your personal stuff into it, and generalized it as if it is accepted gospel.

  • Mary: The narrator’s voice was male.

    Yes, that’s a good point actually — the only male presence in the ad was removed, impotent and unable to take the necessary action. thanks for pointing that out.

    and my point isn’t that a woman can’t be qualified for the highest office in the land, but that what goes around comes around, and if the clinton campaign is going to wage this scorched earth campaign of gender and race then they had better be prepared to receiveth as well as they giveth.

  • I wonder if the little girl from the 3am ad is still willing to back Obama now that she’s had a chance to hear the words of Obama’s trusted advisor Rev. Wright.

    Clinton is not a monster people, Obama is. He knew these videos were out there, and knew this would come out and make him unelectable, yet he decided to continue forward and further divide the Democratic party despite the damage starting a race war would do.

    Obama said repeatedly that Hillary was unelectable because of the “negatives”, which he never really elaborated on, so one can only assume he is referring to the onslaught of republican smear tactics she has endured.

    So, thank you very much Obama for FUCKING EVERYTHING UP for democrats in 2008.

  • The more the world appears to be that kind of place, the less someone who is female fits into it, so it is to their purpose to define it that way.

    Mary: The generalizations you express here about men are just as harmful as the stereotypes of gays and lesbians expressed by evangelicals. Shame on you.

    As I watch you attempt to justify your positions here I discern you are probably an older woman (dare I assume lesbian?) who’s carried a horrific chip on her shoulders for ions. Obviously you’ve faced some actual or perceived injustice (as we all have in some form) and you think Senator Clinton will right these personal wrongs. I sincerely hope you find peace but I doubt Sen. Clinton will provide the remedy.

    And Greg, Sen. Clinton dug her own grave by going dirty, with much help from her cabana boy, Sean Hannity.

    (I’d betcha my stained blue dress all this started when Rev. Wright refused to be cornered by this mealy-mouthed twit a year ago)

  • In a completely non-denominational, “I’ll vote for both of them but humor-is-humor” kind of way, I’ll pass along this awesomely funny bit from Tracy Morgan on the last SNL. Yes, he’s defending Obama, but his last line is one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a long time:

    “Barack is qualified. Personally, I want to know what qualifies Hillary Clinton to be the next president. Is it because she was married to the president? If that were the case then Robin Givens would be the heavyweight champion of the world. If Hillary’s last name wasn’t Clinton, she’d be some crazy white lady with too much money and not enough lovin’. That’s where I come in. I know women like that, you do not want them on the phone at 3 in the morning. In conclusion, three weeks ago, my girl Tina Fey went on the show, she declared that ‘bitch is the new black’. You know I love you, Tina. You know you’re my girl. But I have something to say. Bitch may be the new black, but black is the new president, bitch.”

  • Vis that 3AM phone call:
    http://www.zpub.com/un/Chelsea.html
    As if *Bill’s* excesses weren’t enough to cope with… No wonder Hillary’s alert and dressed to kill in the middle of any given night… Whether she’d have any mental resources left to cope with a *national* (as opposed to a family) crisis is anyone’s guess.

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