White House on Obama, Pakistan

Just to follow up for a moment on my earlier item, I was struck by the White House’s response to Barack Obama’s counter-terrorism policy with relation to Pakistan.

Q: I gather, Tony, from your answer to Martha that you don’t think very much of Barack Obama’s suggestion, he’d send U.S. troops into Pakistan to take care of those safe havens.

TONY SNOW: Well, let me just say we think that our approach to Pakistan is one that not only respects the sovereignty of Pakistan as a sovereign government, but is also designed to work in a way where we are working in cooperation with the local government. So we think that our policy and our approach is the right one.

But that’s part of the problem here; the Bush administration doesn’t have a consistent policy. On the one hand, the president has said emphatically that he wouldn’t pursue terrorists inside Pakistani borders.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. Earlier this week, you told a group of journalists that you thought the idea of sending special forces to Pakistan to hunt down bin Laden was a strategy that would not work. Now, recently you’ve also —

THE PRESIDENT: Because, first of all, Pakistan is a sovereign nation.

Q Well, recently you’ve also described bin Laden as a sort of modern day Hitler or Mussolini. And I’m wondering why, if you can explain why you think it’s a bad idea to send more resources to hunt down bin Laden, wherever he is?

THE PRESIDENT: We are, Richard. Thank you. Thanks for asking the question. They were asking me about somebody’s report, well, special forces here — Pakistan — if he is in Pakistan, as this person thought he might be, who is asking the question — Pakistan is a sovereign nation.

Security Advisor Frances Fragos Townsend said the exact opposite on Fox News two weeks ago.

WALLACE: If our enemies are regenerating their safe haven in Pakistan, under the Bush doctrine of preemptive military action to take out any threat, why aren’t we doing everything we can — special operations forces, pilotless drones — why aren’t we doing everything we can to take out that safe haven?

TOWNSEND: [L]et’s remember that the federally administrated tribal area is an area of Pakistan that’s never seen the writ of the Pakistani government. It’s never extended that far. President Musharraf has got over 80,000 Pakistani military troops in the FATA and working with us they’ve sustained hundreds of casualties in this fight. We’re working with them, but the president has been clear. Job number one is to protect the American people, and there are no options that are off the table.

In other words, the White House policy is that we wouldn’t send troops to attack terrorists inside Pakistani borders except for those times when we send troops to attack terrorists inside Pakistani borders.

Snow said the Bush gang’s approach is the “right one.” Here’s a follow up: which approach would that be?

Indeed, it’s also worth noting that the White House talking points say that al Qaeda has gotten stronger in recent years because Pakistan allowed the terrorist network to establish a new base. As Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell recently said on Meet The Press:

“In Pakistan, where they’re enjoying a safe haven, the government of Pakistan chose to try a political solution. The political solution meant a peace treaty with a region that’s never been governed — not governed from the outside, not governed by Pakistan.

“The opposite occurred. Instead of pushing al-Qaeda out, the people who live in these federally- administered tribal areas, rather than pushing al-Qaeda out, they made a safe haven for training and recruiting. And so, in that period of time, al-Qaeda has been able to regain some of its momentum.”

And which wacky group of people endorsed the Pakistani peace treaty? That would be the Bush White House.

Before Snow condemns Democratic policies, maybe he can help explain his boss’ policy?

Give me a break. Bush can’t even define sovereignty.

“Tribal sovereignty means that—it’s sovereignty,” he stammered. “I mean, you’re a—you’re a—you’ve been given sovereignty and you’re viewed as a sovereign entity.” –-Bush 08.07.04

  • Ron Ziegler, then Nixon’s Press Secretary, once said: “This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative.”

    Any past statement by any Republican on any topic is automatically inoperative when a new statement is issued. What the uninformed would assume to be misdirection, lies or perjury are merely inoperative statements™.

  • I would just be happy to have a president who doesn’t answer a direct question with “We are, Richard. Thank you. Thanks for asking the question. They were asking me about somebody’s report, well, special forces here — Pakistan — if he is in Pakistan, as this person thought he might be, who is asking the question — Pakistan is a sovereign nation.”

  • The charitable interpretation is that the Bush administration is fundamentally dishonest and they just say whatever sounds best at the time. Though this is certainly true, I’m beginning to suspect the administration is in such disarray that nobody is really sure anymore what the U.S. policy is.

  • THE PRESIDENT: Because, first of all, Pakistan is a sovereign nation.

    So we won’t attack bin Laden – perpetrator of 9/11 – in Pakistan because it is a sovereign country. But we’ll attack Hussein – who had vanishingly little to do with international terrorism in general or 9/11 specifically – in Iraq even though it is a sovereign country.

    Why didn’t anyone through this back in the Idiot-in-Chief’s face and laugh him out of the room? My head is about to explode!

  • I’ll second that, Basilisc. Head spinning and exploding so early in the morning… gonna be hard to get through this day.

  • The Sovereign Nation argument is the worst excuse EVA. As Astrogeek points out, this didn’t keep us out of Iraq (but neither did the fact they had nothing to do with bin Laden). However, if sovreignity is a reason not to enter a country, why did we go into Afghanistan?

    Don’t get me wrong, the Taliban needed a kicking, but the pResident didn’t care then. Why can’t they just say Pakistan is our ally so we’re not going to cross their border without permission?

    Oh wait, that would raise questions of why Pakistan hasn’t given permission.

    Another knot in the deadly pretzle that is mAdmin Logic.

  • Even setting ultra-conspiracy bin Laden tribe and Bush Crime Family theories aside, the Shrub needs Osama as a boogey-man for us to fear. Take bin Laden away and all the GOP has, after seven long years, is rigid fundamentalist clap-trap. Nothing else.

  • Q Thank you, Mr. President. Earlier this week, you told a group of journalists that you thought the idea of sending special forces to Pakistan to hunt down bin Laden was a strategy that would not work. Now, recently you’ve also –

    THE PRESIDENT: Because, first of all, Pakistan is a sovereign nation.

    Now, just remind me — Iraq, was it not a sovereign nation in March 2003?

  • Hello all my brothers out there..

    This whole situation is quiet disturbing for people here in Pakistan. About US, well we used to think that co-operating with them and loosing hundreds of troops in “their” war would eventually guarantee us assurity of staying as a soverign state, but it’s really hard to believe that the US once again is about to take a total U – turn in their Afghan policy. It appears as if the Bush administration comments are based on what is required at this moment, and they go against their own statements later on, but neverthless, one thing is sure, this drama has alot more to do with something else, some new hidden thing that washington is once again running after but it will strike back at them, just like it did with Russia a decade ago. An attack on Pakistani borders will create huge roars in the whole country to go against US and US will be simply displayed amongst public as our REAL enemy and more and more people around here in Pakistan would proclaim war against US. In the end, who will loose, I believe US because they would not be able to meet their objective yet will have to suffer more and more casualities in case of a special forces attack just like they are facing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

  • Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. Shame on Obama and shame on Americans who support his views of invading Pakistan. Osama did not plan 9/11, he approved it. The planner of 9/11 was Khalid Sheikh. He is sitting in Guantanamo. How did he end up there? The Pakistanis captured him, handed him over to their Allies so he could be brought to justice for his crimes. Pakistan lost soldiers and lives in its hunt for Khalid and his likes. And for all the sacrifices and efforts a grateful American politician shows his appreciation by threatening to invade the same very ally who captured the mastermind of 9/11. Just pathetic. I am afraid that if, with leaders like Obama, Democrats manage to win the elections on the issue of Iraq, they would create a greater mess.

  • 12. On August 2nd, 2007 at 11:23 pm, Salman Ahmad said:
    Hello all my brothers out there..

    This whole situation is quiet disturbing for people here in Pakistan. About US, well we used to think that co-operating with them and loosing hundreds of troops in “their” war would eventually guarantee us assurity of staying as a soverign state, but it’s really hard to believe that the US once again is about to take a total U – turn in their Afghan policy. It appears as if the Bush administration comments are based on what is required at this moment, and they go against their own statements later on, but neverthless, one thing is sure, this drama has alot more to do with something else, some new hidden thing that washington is once again running after but it will strike back at them, just like it did with Russia a decade ago. An attack on Pakistani borders will create huge roars in the whole country to go against US and US will be simply displayed amongst public as our REAL enemy and more and more people around here in Pakistan would proclaim war against US. In the end, who will loose, I believe US because they would not be able to meet their objective yet will have to suffer more and more casualities in case of a special forces attack just like they are facing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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    Whoa, Salman Ahmad, that whole rant sounded very much like a threat to me… so it’s ok with you that Iraq is going through what it is, but when it comes to your own country it’s all of a sudden “sovereign”? Seems Pakistanis are a just a bunch of hypocrites.. or did I mean terrorists?

  • Ghauri, what was that Red Mosque thing where a lot of PAKISTANI terrorists willingly sacrificed a lot of Pakistani kids for their misplaced beliefs?

    It’s those sort of deaths of INNOCENT children the US is trying to protect .. and if we don’t take action on terrorists harbored by Pakistani, believe me, ALL the world’s innocent kids are in trouble.

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