White House warns of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed ‘walking around our neighborhoods’

The line between Republican rhetoric and parodies of Republican rhetoric seems to blur more and more all the time.

The White House said Thursday that dangerous detainees at Guantanamo Bay could end up walking Main Street U.S.A. as a result of last month’s Supreme Court ruling about detainees’ legal rights. Federal appeals courts, however, have indicated they have no intention of letting that happen.

The high court ruling, which gave all detainees the right to petition federal judges for immediate release, has intensified discussions within the Bush administration about what to do with the roughly 270 detainees held at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

“I’m sure that none of us want Khalid Sheikh Mohammed walking around our neighborhoods,” White House press secretary Dana Perino said about al-Qaida’s former third in command.

Yes, unless we reject habeas corpus and embrace the notion of indefinite detention, KSM will move in next door to you. He’ll also probably get a job at your local school. Maybe become a soccer coach. I hear he’s been eyeing PTA membership.

Look, I know the White House and its allies want us to be afraid. If we’re scared, and our judgment is blurred, their prospects of political success increase considerably. If the president’s spokesperson can convince people that habeas will lead Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to roam Main Street freely, then maybe, the Bush gang hopes, the public will endorse their indefinite-detention policies.

But it’s clear that the White House’s demagoguery is so far from reality, it’s absurd.

I’m reminded of the recent “debate” over whether Osama bin Laden would be given habeas rights (the McCain campaign and conservatives found the idea outrageous).

But here’s the thing — who, exactly, is worried that we wouldn’t have enough evidence to hold bin Laden or Khalid Sheikh Mohammed? As one of John Cole’s commenters put it, “I guess not a single person in the Justice Department has ever figured out how they’re going to try Osama bin Laden. I know it’s a complex case involving some difficult-to-pronounce syllables and maybe even some maps with even more difficult names, but are we really unprepared for a Habeas response regarding Osama Freakin’ bin Laden?”

The same, of course, applies to KSM. The chances of a federal court freeing him to “walk around our neighborhoods” is non-existent.

I’d add, by the way, that the White House also seems to be attacking the position articulated by John McCain in 2005:

“Now, I know that some of these guys [at Guantanamo] are terrible, terrible killers and the worst kind of scum of humanity. But, one, they deserve to have some adjudication of their cases. And there’s a fear that if you release them that they’ll go back and fight again against us. And that may have already happened. But balance that against what it’s doing to our reputation throughout the world and whether it’s enhancing recruiting for people to join al-Qaeda and other organizations and want to do bad things to the United States of America. I think, on balance, the argument has got to be — the weight of evidence has got to be that we’ve got to adjudicate these people’s cases, and that means that if it means releasing some of them, you’ll have to release them.

“Look, even Adolf Eichmann got a trial.”

“If it means releasing some of them, you’ll have to release them.” I still wonder, from time to time, what the McCain campaign and the White House would be saying right now if Barack Obama had said the same thing.

Can you imagine being of middle eastern decent and moving into a new neighborhood after the White House makes comments like this?

  • Yes, unless we reject habeas corpus and embrace the notion of indefinite detention, KSM will move in next door to you.
    Would that really—no, really; I do really mean, “REALLY”—be such a bad idea? At least by having KSM in the house next door, I wouldn’t have to worry about some sycophantic sicko from FOXnews moving in—or Dick Cheney—or Karl Rove—or any of those other fearmongering little peeps.

    Besides, I might even be able to have a conversation that’s more intelligent than the one that’s been playing on Rush Limbaugh these many years….

  • Damn! Did John McCain really say that? It actually makes sense!

    Why isn’t THAT guy running for president instead of Grandpa Simpson?

  • But it’s clear that the White House’s demagoguery is so far from reality, it’s absurd.

    Which hasn’t stopped their success with this crap for the past 7 years. You keep forgetting, Steve, that you’re dealing with Americans – the least-educated people on the planet. Mencken was right.

  • I just don”t understand this mentality that one lousy terrorist roaming the streets represents the end of the world. Sure, some will escape justice. But we have thousands upon thousands of ordinary criminals roaming the streets in America. They’re not all behind bars. And we don’t panic and get hysterical about it. We haven’t suspended our criminal justice system or Constitution to deal with this problem that absolutely dwarfs terrorism. In fact, there are so many ordinary criminals running amok that they commit 17,000 murders, 90,000 rapes, 450,000 robberies, 850,000 assaults, two million burglaries and one million car thefts each and every year for chris sakes. What the hell is the matter with everybody? Have we no sense of proportion in this country? Are we incapable of prioritizing, putting things in context?

    Hospitals kill more people in one year than terrorists could ever dream about.

    Over 40,000 people are slaughtered every year on our highways, yet we don’t even think about it while driving. But we’re scared to death we might get mad cow disease or get struck down by a terrorist.

    And the politicians fan the flames of this of madness simply to maintain their grip on power, not to serve the people.

  • You don’t have to worry about Obama saying the same thing — no danger of that. Here is what Obama actually said about the FISA “compromise”:

    “In a dangerous world, government must have the authority to collect the intelligence we need to protect the American people…”

    Obama will make sure all those bad guys stay locked up, and lots of others along with them, even if it means surrendering every freedom we have, because the overriding priority is keeping everyone very, very safe in a “dangerous world”.

    You are all so confident that Obama, in his heart of hearts, believes all the same things you do. You interpret his recent swing to the right as just something he is doing to get votes in the Fall. What if the things he is saying now are his true beliefs and the things he told you during the primary were just something he said to get the nomination? The problem with a guy like Obama is that you can’t answer that question so you must fall back on faith, the same kind of religious faith in the absence of evidence that Obama thinks should be integrated into our brave new government.

  • Let’s not get carried away. There is little doubt that KLM is a huge asshole. Just because Rush and them are bad doesn’t make KLM good. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

  • This is merely the Republicans latest strategy to get out the vote. They’ll put KSM on Main Street campaigning for McCain.

    The whining that somehow denying rights to ourselves and our enemies makes us strong is un-American. There is no vindication from winning with a stacked deck and that’s the only way the Bush boys want to play. That’s what Gitmo is all about. There’s no chance KSM is going to be freed by his right to a hearing, but there are people there without evidence or reason. This is the same old Bush Administration, they will do any damage necessary to this country in order to avoid responsibility for their mistakes.

    This notion that we have to change ourselves and our court system and our ideas against pre-emptive war is central to the Republicans display of fear and cowardice. It is the exact opposite of standing up for our country and our freedom. When they call Democrats the “surrender party” it’s time they were reminded that President Bush and his supporters surrendered on September 12, 2001 by declaring that bin Laden was more powerful than the US Constitution.

  • Dale said: “Let’s not get carried away. There is little doubt that KLM is a huge asshole.”

    Given the record of the past seven-and-a-half years, I am inclined to doubt anything that originates from the Bushylvanians. Almost everything they’ve tied to KSM reeks to the heavens of “Wag The Dog….”

  • Am I the only one who thinks “our” government’s refusal to actually charge these people is a tacit admission that there is no evidence against them?

  • Can anyone, seriously, mention the name of any prominent Republican who has, in defending the GWOT, included our home-grown, “Christianity”-based terrorists in the list of enemies to fight against. Has anyone equated the Oklahoma City bombers, Eric Rudolph, the “Phineas Priests,’ and the “Watchmen on the Walls,’ with KSM and other foreign terrorists? There was, I recall reading stories of, a substantial group of Appalachian Christians who helped Rudolph hide and protected him for several years, as was the case with one other bomber, I believe — I’d appreciate any cites on stories about this. While, as a civil libertarian, I would be revolted by this, it would at least give Republicans credit for sincerity if any of them had suggested using the same weapons against our home-grown, white, Christian terrorists as they do for those of a darker shade and a different ‘sacred book.’

  • Gathering and presenting evidence is just too hard to do. Better to just trust the judgement of the worst President in American history to sort all this out.

    Somewhere along the line, modern conservatism has gone from a political philosophy to a mental illness. What’s not built on lies, is hallucination. Naturally, anyone who does not share their hallucinations is somehow defective or wants to destroy America.
    Pick a subject: Economics, Ecology, Evolution, War…It’s not that they can’t see reality. They are simply opposed to it.

  • We have enough evidence of KSM’s involvement in an airline bombing plot in the 90s to convict and put him away for life, where his co-cospirators are already languishing. Which we’d only need if some DOJ flunky managed to spill coffee all over the file showing him to be the financier of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and we couldn’t use it.

    So even if a judge threw out everything he’s told us since we captured him because he was possibly tortured, no judge is going to order KSM released, much less released to the streets of the United States.

    Their refusal to charge him hasn’t been because they lacked evidence, it’s been because they wanted to establish a new set of rules in which the President had superpowers because of the “global war on terrorism”, and didn’t need to bother with such minor annoyances as “charges” or “evidence.” Gitmo was always way more about expanding Executive Authority than about effectively handling captured enemies.

    (Though I’m sure there are men in custody where there really is no evidence, aside from unreliable accusations from people we paid bounties to.)

  • Why is it that the White House keeps blaming everyone else for their failures and the MSM just sucks it up?

    The primary job of the WH is the protection of the US Constitution and Citizens. They have FAILED at both protecting us and our rights.

    Nobody claims this is an easy job, but nobody seems to remember that the terrorists who attacked the WTC in 93 are behind bars and we didn’t lose our basic rights to do it. In fact, most people have forgotten all about it, and that’s exactly how we should be fighting terrorism instead of this big f&*ked up mess created by Bush and the Neocons.

    That the WH is worried that all the detainees will be freed is nobody’s fault but the WH. The whole WH War on Terror has been one big f&*k up after another with no one else to blame.

    And just WONDERING, where is Osama Bin Laden?

  • No, the primary job of the president is to uphold the Constitution and see that the laws are faithfully executed. I don’t know where all this crap about protecting the people started but it is crap and leads to authoritarianism.

    I don’t need dad; I have one and he was a much better man, warts and all, than the current pResident.

  • This is why Bush’s popularity is so low. A WH press secretary touting absurdities doesn’t mean it resonates with the public. Some very loud mouth radicals would have us believe they represent Americans when the fact is they represent about a fourth of the national community. The rest of us can’t get rid of them fast enough. Unfortunately that fourth includes some legislative leaders who are full of fear that they could be blamed if something bad happens so they join in the chorus the”terrorists are coming” when the see 3people of mid-eastern decent standing together.

    We must get rid of Habeas because Jeffrey Dalmer (use any serial killer’s name etc.)could walk mainstreet. Perino proves no amount of fear mongering is beneath her. A shameful and stupid comment. Watch the press, Fox, A-N-B-C etc. join in the chorus and follow their marching orders.

  • “I’m reminded of the recent “debate” over whether Osama bin Laden would be given habeas rights”

    If I’m not mistaken, those pinkos who wrote the Constitution gave Osama habeas rights, and they were seconding a motion first made in 1215.

  • Oh, for shit’s sake! These mouthbreathers have beaten this dead horse to a pulp, and still seem to believe that it’s going to get up and run for them. I pretty damned sure that the average American is at least a thousand times more worried about being able to afford the gas to drive to work, paying the mortgage, and putting food on the table than they are about jihadists running amok in our neighborhoods. Most would probably say the threat of dying from inadequate health care is way more likely than getting killed by a terrorist bomb. The fact that our country is going down the tubes faster than a greased pig probably looms fairly large in the mind of anyone with half a brain.

    But then, these fucktards don’t have half a brain.

  • You know whats funny? The possiblity that if America pulls out of Iraq the war really stops. Like one would say to a baby…All gone, no more.

    Thats the real
    terror no more war.

  • KSM will move in next door to you. He’ll also probably get a job at your local school. Maybe become a soccer coach. I hear he’s been eyeing PTA membership. — CB

    Where did you hear that? I heard he was gonna go to a flight school and apply for a job with United or maybe Delta…

  • OH MY GOD!! IT’S TRUE!!!

    KSM is on VH1 right now!!!

    No, wait….

    Sorry, my fault, it’s actually Ron Jeremy.

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