‘Why we’re staying in Iraq’

During the recent semantics debate over whether to refer to Bush’s new Iraq policy as a “surge” or an “escalation,” part of the discussion focused on duration. As Spencer Ackerman explained, a surge is “a temporary infusion of troops.” This didn’t appear to be what the Bush plan had in store.

With this in mind, Michael Hirsh’s piece for Newsweek couldn’t be more important in highlighting what Americans should expect.

The British are leaving, the Iraqis are failing and the Americans are staying — and we’re going to be there a lot longer than anyone in Washington is acknowledging right now. As Democrats and Republicans back home try to outdo each other with quick-fix plans for the withdrawal of U.S. troops and funds, what few people seem to have noticed is that Gen. David Petraeus’s new “surge” plan is committing U.S. troops, day by day, to a much deeper and longer-term role in policing Iraq than since the earliest days of the U.S. occupation.

How long must we stay under the Petraeus plan? Perhaps 10 years. At least five. In any case, long after George W. Bush has returned to Crawford, Texas, for good.

But don’t take my word for it. I’m merely a messenger for a coterie of counterinsurgency experts who have helped to design the Petraeus plan — his so-called “dream team” — and who have discussed it with NEWSWEEK, usually on condition of anonymity, owing to the sensitivity of the subject. To a degree little understood by the U.S. public, Petraeus is engaged in a giant “do-over.”

I don’t think the country appreciates what this “do-over” entails; the White House and conservative war supporters in Congress certainly haven’t acknowledged the details publicly. As Hirsh explained, the new policy is premised on the notion that “the future of Iraq depends on the long-term presence of U.S. forces in a way it did not just a few months ago.” No more pretending that Iraqi security forces are taking the lead, no more pretending that Iraq’s government is credible. As one former U.S. Army captain said, “We’re putting down roots.”

Roots which will take years to take hold.

It seems terribly common in our political discourse to hear grudging war supporters argue that they want to see whether Bush’s policy is working in 90 days. Or six months. Or maybe a year. If Iraq isn’t on track within (fill in the time), then they’ll consider serious alternatives, including redeployment.

But this entirely misses the point of what’s happening. The Newsweek article describes a long-term, open-ended commitment, during which U.S. troops, largely on their own, take the lead. Indeed, Petraeus and his team appear to be counting on it. The “surge” will go on indefinitely.

That U.S. casualties will be higher as a result of the policy is practically a given.

Casey sought to accelerate both the training of Iraqi forces and American withdrawal. By 2008, the remaining 60,000 or so U.S. troops were supposed to be hunkering down in four giant “superbases,” where they would be relatively safe. Under Petraeus’s plan, a U.S. military force of 160,000 or more is setting up hundreds of “mini-forts” all over Baghdad and the rest of the country, right in the middle of the action. […]

“This is the right strategy: small mini-packets of U.S. troops all over, small ‘oil spots’ [of stability] spreading out. It’s classic counterinsurgency,” says one of the Army’s top experts in irregular warfare, who helped draft the counterinsurgency manual that Petraeus produced while commander at Fort Leavenworth last year — the principles of which the general is applying to Iraq. “But it’s high risk and it’s going to take a long time.”

This should be a conversation-changer. Talk about whether we’ll see progress in the spring, summer, or fall is irrelevant; the new administration policy is a five- to 10-year approach that puts more U.S. troops “right in the middle of the action.”

Is this what congressional Republicans want? Is this what the country is prepared for?

a five to ten year approach that puts more us troops right in the middle of the action? i don’t think so.

it was a mistake to start this war, it’s a mistake to continue this war. the american public wants out of iraq now. not in ten years, not in five years. now.

  • Assuming that Petraus is a bright man, how is this even possible? I have not heard any account but that the army/marines/reserves are broken. Does this mean a draft? How can we possibly keep a troop commitment that high for 5-10 years?

    This is all besides the point of the sheer idiocy of staying there.

  • Why don’t we ask the Israelis how it worked out for them in Lebanon, or the Soviets, or the Romans?

  • All we really need bother with is protecting the oil wells, pipelines and ports. I don’t see the point in spending another dollar or drop of blood on anything else. Let the Saudis, Turks and Iranians worry about the rest. Right?

  • Is this what congressional Republicans want? Is this what the country is prepared for?

    I think at this point the ReThugs just want the next President to be a a Democrat so they can blame him for the mess and then start screaming that we have to withdraw right now. As for the rest of us? No. There has been a lot of hinting from the WH that this won’t take very long at all, really. I suspect by mid-summer people all over the country will be pretty damn restless especially if there are too many casualties. Meanwhile BushBrat will sit on his thumb and try to change the subject as the clock runs out.

    “This is the right strategy: small mini-packets of U.S. troops all over, small ‘oil spots’ [of stability] spreading out. It’s classic counterinsurgency,”

    (sarcastic emphasis mine)

    I think it is a great strategy and I haven’t seen anyone argue it is not a great strategy.

    BUT the timing is a bit off. By like…four years. If these guys were rolling in right after ShoknAw (TM) ended, great. After various groups have formed and stolen weapons and gotten to know how you work. After your forces are rather tired and their equipment is screwed and some of your soldiers don’t have all of the training they need. After the general public has started to hate your damn guts. That is not the time to set up light house keeping in the middle of a neighborhood.

  • Repubs know they will see a Democratic President in about 23 months. They know that President will pull all troops out.

    So the plan is to say after the pullout begins, that ‘we would have stayed and won’, unfortunately the Dems lost the war.

    And that’s all there is to the Bush-McCain doctrine.

  • We will still be in Iraq to the degree we currently are, while Bush is president. He doesn’t care about what happens after – it ain’t his problem. I would hazard a guess that unless are Republican is elected in 2008, that this is going to be the GOP (especially those that still support Bush) plan. If a Democrat wins the election any and all failure for the entire course of the Iraq conflict (even during Bush’s presidency) will be blamed on that president and Congress (if still cotrolled by Democrats). Remember they think Bush and his team did it right and it was the media, Democrats, and the disloyal who are messing everything up and Republicans are always right. The are never, ever, ever going to hold Bush and his team accountable for anything that was wrong or done wrong. They will – no matter the contortions – blame Democrats.

    No matter the actual facts remember:
    Wars prosecuted under Republican presidents/Congress = Good and Just
    Wars prosecuted under Democratic presidents/Congress = Bad
    Wars that suceed = all Republican’s doing
    Wars that fail = all Democrat’s doing
    Soldiers that die in wars started by Republicans – Brave men and women that died saving America and its way of life, etc., etc., etc.
    Soldiers that die in wars started by Democrats – A total was of brave men and women fighting a war that is none of our business

  • What ever happened to, “we will stay as long as necessary and not one minute longer, and we ask no land other than a place to bury our dead who fell in the cause of Iraqi freedom”? A certain sector of American society, and we all know who it is, is committed to a long-term occupation of Iraq. In her increasingly distracted drop-ins on the Middle East, Condi Rice mentions democracy and security only as window-dressing, while she applies all the muscle she can muster to getting the hydrocarbon law passed. A part of America wants control over that oil, and will sacrifice anything to gain it, because it solves all of America’s looming problems. Remaining the “world’s sole superpower” depends on controlling Indian and Chinese access to energy, thereby regulating their exploding growth. Getting an American economy dependent on oil back on the rails – ditto. Simply buying Iraqi oil on the open market isn’t good enough – America wants control. Not only is it like a license to print money (for the chosen few), it grants the owners power to regulate world prices – something that has long been the sole privilege of Saudi Arabia.

  • It’s so comforting to know that the man in charge of training the Iraqi army so that we could stand down as Iraqis stood up is now spearheading a new policy that acknowledges what a failure the previous one was. If these people had an ounce of integrity or responsibility they would have resigned months ago.

  • I’ve come to believe that the only reason we’re staying in Iraq is that Bush/Cheney and those who promoted/supported the invasion cannot face the fact that they have failed at every turn. As long as they pretend we haven’t failed, they can can continue to act as if their ideology is valid.

  • Maybe the real plan is that in 5 to 10 years, they’ll finally have the country divided into pure Sunni, Shia, and Kurd sectors, and then you can create a Yugoslav-like federation, dance to the “We Did It!” song from Dora the Explorer, and leave those Iraqis still alive to their own fate.

  • Petraeus is a weed. Weeds are sometimes difficult to get rid of, because the roots they put down can often go several feet deep. But to get rid of that weed, you either kill the root, or you deny it food—and Petraeus’ “food,” in this case, is bountiful supplies of IED-fodder.

    Some time back in the history of these United States, a “passive insurrection” was waged against the abomination of slavery. That insurrection, commonly referred to by many as “the underground railroad,” established a series of routes by which those who sought to flee the tyranny of slavery could leave the United States and establish new, productive lives in Canada.

    Maybe the question that should be asked—at least for those “next 23 months”—is how to establish a series of routes that would allow those who seek to escape “the tyranny of the weed” by moving through to Canada? Not just one here and another there—but literally thousands, if not even more?

    Because the only way that this vile course; this “Petraeus Plan” can proceed, it to reactivate the draft….

  • I’m glad they’re finally calling it what it is – a counterinsurgency. We need to start discussing it on real terms. IE can we really conduct one without sacrificing our morals? Every other successful counterinsurgency in history required brutal repression. Are we really ready for that? I don’t think that the American people want to be spending their blood and treasure in such a misguided and imperialistic mission.

  • As mentioned above Petraeus’ is the only way to fight an insurgency, but also mentioned about, it is too goddamned late.

    OIF will go down as one of the stupidest wars ever.

    “A part of America wants control over that oil, and will sacrifice anything to gain it, because it solves all of America’s looming problems”

    A plan that would make sense if the insurgency doesn’t blow up refineries and pumping stations. All it takes is a couple of well placed RPGs. Hard to steal Iraqi oil when the bullets are flying and you have no means to get it to market, but then again these scumbags are probably figuring that security won’t be an issue anyway (afterall, there are no problems in the MBA run corporatocracy, only opportunities…)

  • Homer nails it in #2.

    For HOW long? And with what troops, sir, and with what equipment?

    By end of summer the GOP will be in full disarray. Dems need to move strongly against this madness NOW so that they will be in line with (or even ahead of) the American people, who want out of Bush’s hellhole yesterday.

    And when anyone asks how we can leave when the place will get worse, answer “the explosion will come because Bush lit the fuse, not because we saved some of our people from the explosion”. Ask them where all the yellow elephants are. If even 1% of them signed up, there would be NO shortage of troops. They would still be short of equipment, but there is obviously no stomach for this stupidity even among Bush’s supporters.

  • After reading all of the very thoughtful comments above, I keep harkening back to the nagging thought that if Bush serves his full term in office we are facing disaster unconcieved of by most rational minds. I keep returning to the idea that Bush/Cheney don’t deserve a pass on this. I think Impeachment is not enough, they deserve a punishment that fits their crimes. If they are not held accountable, our nation will.

  • Petraeus’ plan is a joke. Using the math from his very own counterinsurgency manual, we would need 150,000 COMBAT forces to have a shot at pacifying Baghdad. We will have somewhere in the neighborhood of, what, 50K? So, we are creating all of these mini-forts all over, but we still don’t have enough troops there (and he isn’t “asking” for them) to man these forts! This is WORSE than what we have done so far. We are asking our troops to do far more with far less. But, we’re winning, so that’s all that matters…

  • tAiO #5 strikes at the heart of this folly: a full on counter insurgency should have taken place when it was a nascent movement and not fully developed. I fear Petraeus’ “classic” plan will be about 10 years behind the times for facing an enemy that is experimenting with homemade chemical attacks, is becoming more proficient in downing air support and has a number of generations of improved IEDs and other anti-personal and anti-vehicle explosives.

    This operation is purely reactionary and doesn’t look to get ahead of an enemy that rapidly evolves with ever greater sophistication in its tactics. The only way a counter insurgency could succeed is with the cooperation of the people. They no longer want us there and kicking down more of their doors and beating in their heads. The best Petraeus can bring is an expensive stalemate that allows to stay in Iraq for the sake of staying in Iraq.

  • Yup so they can blame the loss of Iraq on the democrats just like how they supposedly lost vietnam…

  • Ohioan (#6): the plan is to say after the pullout begins, that ‘we would have stayed and won’, unfortunately the Dems lost the war.

    This is exactly how I see it. This war and this administration, in general, have been more disastrous to the United States than anything in recent memory. The Republican party is in “damage control mode”. It will be a disaster if they escalate, it will be a disaster if we pull out.

    That’s the whole point of the “non-binding resolution”: it puts on official record, Congress’s disapproval with the war and the president’s “surge” without falling into the trap being set.

    Unfortunately, the administration is going to keep tightening the screws until the plan becomes so outrageous, that the Congress will have no choice but to take action (which they’re doing right now) and the Conservatives/Republicans get to hold on to “the base” (the 30% – 40% who years from now will be telling us how we would have won if the liberals hadn’t sissied out… just like Vietnam.

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