Will anyone get the ‘big mo’ from the J-J dinner?

Iowa Democrats hosted a boisterous Jefferson-Jackson dinner last night, with 9,000 enthusiastic attendees packing the Veterans Memorial Auditorium in Des Moines. If you missed C-SPAN’s coverage, most of the candidates posted their appearances on YouTube: Dodd, Edwards, Obama, Richardson, and Clinton (though Clinton’s clip is only a brief excerpt). Biden hasn’t posted his speech, while Kucinich and Gravel weren’t invited because they lack, according to the state party, “active campaigns in Iowa.”

Whether the J-J dinner is even capable of shaking up the race is unclear. As the NYT noted, “The dinner here has become a signature event on the Iowa political calendar [but] the vast majority of attendees had already chosen a candidate, so the practical political effect of the night was uncertain.”

That said, The Des Moines Register’s David Yepsen, arguably most respected political voice in Iowa’s media, seems to have declared Barack Obama the big winner of the night. “Five of them gave really good speeches,” Yepsen said. “Barack Obama’s was excellent.”

It was one of the best of his campaign. The passion he showed should help him close the gap on Hillary Clinton by tipping some undecided caucus-goers his way. His oratory was moving and he successfully contrasted himself with the others – especially Clinton – without being snide or nasty about it. […]

Obama was particularly impressive Saturday night. Should he win the Iowa caucuses, Saturday’s dinner will be remembered as one of the turning points in his campaign in here, a point where he laid down the marker and began closing on Clinton, the national frontrunner.

In a recent TPMtv interview, Markos Moulitsas asked where the Obama from the 2004 convention had gone. I argued that, if anything, Obama was too much like he was in 2004 — in the “Audacity of Hope” speech, he offered practically no partisan red-meat, and didn’t mention Bush, Cheney, or Republicans at all. In today’s political climate, it’s awfully tough to win primary fight, especially from second place, with a post-partisan worldview.

If last night’s speech was any indication, Obama is now trying to strike a balance, threading an ideological needle. He used ’04 themes (“I don’t want to pit blue America against red America, I want to lead the United States of America”), while slamming Bush-style politics (“The era of Scooter Libby justice, Brownie incompetence, and Karl Rove politics will finally be over”), and subtly criticizing the Democratic frontrunner (“Not answering questions because we’re afraid our answers won’t be popular just won’t do it”).

Apparently, it was a rhetorical challenge that worked pretty well.

Other noteworthy takes from last night:

TNR’s Michael Crowley noted, “Prior to tonight’s dinner there was much chatter about how the event might reshape the Democratic race. I didn’t see anything like that. If I had to declare a winner it would definitely be Obama, who made me think anew about his potential as a nominee who can excite voters. But my main conclusion is that these candidates have all established their basic rationales and critiques, ones unlikely to change much between now and January 3.”

The Nation’s Ari Berman was impressed with Hillary Clinton, while Garance Franke-Ruta wasn’t.

Ana Marie Cox, who described the J-J dinner as “the least interesting campaign event” she’s attended, has assorted observations, but also gave the edge to Obama: “He also was the only candidate that seemed, for lack of a better word, to be working it. He gave that speech as if he was trying to convince people, not just solidifying the support he already had.”

One can’t help but wonder what the race would look like now if Obama had hit some of these same notes sooner.

One can’t help but wonder what the race would look like now if Obama had hit some of these same notes sooner.

Well, remember what happened to us last time when someone started saying all the right things a little too late.

  • A democrat will win the presidency but it will make little difference if it were any of this group. Only Kucinich and possibly Edwards will bring any real change. Otherwise it’s welcome back to the other side of corporate America. I want a candidate who will burn Diane Feinstein at the stake and have Bush and Cheney arrested. Otherwise we get this …”I want a great America…one that will blah blah blah…and it’s time for a different blah, blah, blah, It’s time for this country to blah blah blah”…Meanwhile they all let it continue as is without doing anything. No end to our military campaigns, no national healthcare, no end to the corporate lobbyists writing our laws. Why a meaningless state like Iowa should have anything to do with our national politics has always been a mystery to me. Making a trip to Iowa for a primary is about the only reason to go there and that really makes little sense.

    Cinton beats Obama, Obama beats Clinton, Biden beats dodd etc…who cares. Look what ’06 gave us…another chance to be frustrated. Call us when the ethics committee is burning Feinstein and her greedy husband at the stake.

  • Obama is hitting his stride at the perfect time, in my opinion. He deserves the nomination. He is the difference between squeeking through to win the White House and winning decisively and helping some down-ticket candidates. Think about it, fellow Dems.

  • Pretty much what waka waka said.

    The 2008 campaign started way too damn early, I think I’m more of a political junkie than the average person and even I had a hard time mustering any interest in who said what.

    Maybe he was pacing himself?

  • I’m for an Edwards/Obama ticket but would vote for any Democrat rather than any of his/her Republican presidential challengers in 2008. May true democracy be restored in 2008 and beyond!!

  • If California’s governator wasn’t a Republican, I would be suporting Feinstein’s impeachment. I am so embarrassed I voted for her.

    I tried to leave a message at the California Democratic website but, interestingly, they have no contact information except an address. If the Dems don’t come up with a viable candidate to supplant her, I won’t vote for the state Democrats.

    As for President, are we really going to go through another year of this? It feels like MSM’s treatment of baseball and football games – dictating when they will be played and when the breaks will occur. Go WRITERS, kick the dudes where it counts.

  • I have to say I really kind of liked John Edwards’ speech. Speaking of guys we haven’t see in a while, there really was a lot of the John Edwards of early 2003 in it — the guy Bill Clinton said could talk the owls down out of the trees. I’ll admit I almost groaned when he go to the obligatory son-of-a-mill-worker reference, but even that didn’t come off sounding all that stale.

    Obama kind of left me flat though. I like him OK in general but that just struck me as a speech that could have come out of the mouth of any politician who ever ran for anything; long on promises and short on vision. His delivery was pretty good — lots of loud talking — but I really didn’t think it rose to the level of Yepsen’s build-up. And if that was Clinton’s best 58 seconds, I couldn’t say she was any better.

    If I were scoring this match, I think I’d have to give it to Edwards.

  • Kos makes an interesting point in in the TPMtv interview. When you listen to Barack Obama speak it’s all I’m the one who can do this and I’m the only one who’s done that and here’s how I’m going to change the world and yeah, all politicians spend a fair amount of time blowing their own horns but you really can come away feeling like it’s all about the Obama. I’ve noticed the same thing a time or two myself, now that he brings it up.

    Compare and contrast with Howard Dean’s campaign, where it really was all about you can do it, you’ve got the power, you can change the world. It’s a good point. Might go a long way toward explaining why Obama hasn’t emerged as more of a force among the Kossaks, since DailyKos was kind of a Deaniac stronghold in 2003-4.

  • Edwards gave the best speech.

    Yepsen is the Register political writer, but his conservative views taint his ability to be objective when he comments on Democrats. CalD correctly stated one of the problems with Obama’s speeches–they are riddled with references to himself (though he is not nearly as bad as Biden); Clinton falls into this mode sometimes, too. Despite the personal references, Obama’s speech was excellent, particularly at the end.

    But it was Edwards who really lit up the place. Edwards talked about what the people of our country can do if we seize back the power that has been taken by the wealthy elites of both parties. Edwards grabbed onto the progressive agenda and powerfully called for everyone’s help in implementing it.

  • I have to agree that John Edwards gave the best speech. He’s looking more and more polished, serious, and presidential as time goes by, and his issue-focus has much appeal for a lot of the country, those whose concerns are almost never represented by their Congresspeople, those who are so discouraged by their concerns being ignored that they don’t vote. I’ve talked to enough non-voters in poor rural America to learn WHY they don’t vote, and it’s because of two things. The first is “They don’t care about us farmers (fishermen, crabbers, small store owners, etc.).” and even if their concerns are recognized, “They make promises they don’t keep.”

    If Edwards can get his message out to rural America, they might stir themselves to vote.

  • I was at the JJ dinner on Sat. I am a Hillary supporter. My take is as follows: Edwards gave the first speech. It was rousing, heartwarming and positive. Everyone clapped. Richardson was next (He stayed at our hotel and we met him). His was not as rousing, but very positive, unifying and up beat. We cllapped politely. Biden followed. His was introspective, philosophical, even lyrical. It was well received, and we all clapped and cheered. Dodd was OK, but not rousing. Everyone was polite. Hillary gave a rousing and retorically well structured speech. We all went nuts, and but the Obama people were silent. All the speeches to this point had been positive, up beat and under the big tent. Obama gave a rousing, well done speech. However, it was full of shots at both Hillary and even Bill. I was aghast. We are not the enemy. He has forsaken the politics of hope for the politics of fear (If you can’t govern with only 51% of the vote, yada, yada). He went back to politics as usual, when he is supposed to be doing things differently,even using Republican tactics He attacked Clinton indirectly for her vote on Kyle-Lieberman (He didn’t think it important enough to get back from NH to vote on it, and his position on Iran is almost exactly the same as hers) What happened to the politics of truth? Anyway, I sat on my hands during his speech.
    As a party activist and county vice-chair, I would remind the senator that we grassroots folks have long memories. If he should win the nomination, any further such displays will certainly not fire up the broader base. We might not “be ready to make nice”.

  • I was so angry at the arrogance of the Clinton Campaign that I could no longer stomach the speech she was about to give. Only an arrogant campaign would “reserve” the only parking structure near the event for their designated friends, while the rest of us were lucky to score a seat in the balcony to hear what the candidates have to say. Obama and Clinton bought out the event, turned it into a spectacle, and gave our nation the illusion that these tow candidates are the only Democrats with a chance of winning Iowa. Not true. And doubly shame on the Iowa Democratic Party for giving Clinton and Obama the last two slots. Don’t tell us this wasn’t scheduled according to the polls (which, by the way do not reflect reality among Iowa caucus goers).

    The Dinner was turned into a cheerleading rally from people bused in from out of state by Obama and Clinton. As Biden said as he took the stage…”Hello Chicago”.

    Edwards gave the best speech – the most moving I have ever witnessed. Bully for him. He is my second choice, but unlucky for him my Des Moines precinct will bring in enough of my neighbors who support Joe Biden to make his presence viable.

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