‘Yeah, I can’t remember’

In most interviews and press conferences, the president seems almost allergic to contemplation. Bush avoids discussion of his legacy, his previous decisions, his place in history, even what he might do after his presidency ends.

Robert Draper, however, a former writer for Texas Monthly, spent hours with the president at the White House, getting Bush to open up on these subjects for an upcoming book, which Draper agreed to share with the New York Times. It led to an NYT piece today that is almost impossible to read without feeling incredibly frustrated.

On the subject of his life after the White House:

First, Mr. Bush said, “I’ll give some speeches, just to replenish the ol’ coffers.” With assets that have been estimated as high as nearly $21 million, Mr. Bush added, “I don’t know what my dad gets — it’s more than 50-75” thousand dollars a speech, and “Clinton’s making a lot of money.”

Then he said, “We’ll have a nice place in Dallas,” where he will be running what he called “a fantastic Freedom Institute” promoting democracy around the world. But he added, “I can just envision getting in the car, getting bored, going down to the ranch.”

Bush sure is an impressive one, isn’t he?

This might have been the most maddening revelation:

Mr. Bush acknowledged one major failing of the early occupation of Iraq when he said of disbanding the Saddam Hussein-era military, “The policy was to keep the army intact; didn’t happen.”

But when Mr. Draper pointed out that Mr. Bush’s former Iraq administrator, L. Paul Bremer III, had gone ahead and forced the army’s dissolution and then asked Mr. Bush how he reacted to that, Mr. Bush said, “Yeah, I can’t remember, I’m sure I said, ‘This is the policy, what happened?’ ” But, he added, “Again, Hadley’s got notes on all of this stuff,” referring to Stephen J. Hadley, his national security adviser.

Let’s not brush past this too quickly.

The disbanding of the Iraqi army was one of the biggest mistakes of an administration burdened by near-constant missteps, one that was largely responsible for the creation of an Iraqi insurgency. On the subject, Bush sounds like a confused child — he didn’t understand the decision, he’s not sure how the decision was made, and asked for his reaction to the decision, Bush is left to conclude, “Yeah, I can’t remember.”

As James Fallows put it:

Think about this…. [T]he President who has staked the fortunes of his Administration, his party, his place in history, and (come to think of it ) his nation on the success of his Iraq policy cannot remember and even now cannot be bothered to find out how the decision was made.

Finally, there was this gem:

[Bush] said he saw his unpopularity as a natural result of his decision to pursue a strategy in which he believed. “I made a decision to lead,” he said, “One, it makes you unpopular; two, it makes people accuse you of unilateral arrogance, and that may be true. But the fundamental question is, is the world better off as a result of your leadership?”

Does Bush really want an answer to that “fundamental question”?

It’s amazing, after all these years, that I can still be stunned by anything this guy says. But this is stunning in its entirety. And confirms the worst narratives about Bush.

  • There would be nothing wrong with any of this if it came from a vaguely depressed teenager talking about his job down at the Quiki-Mart. Unfortunately, it comes from a guy who has bungled 2 wars and wants a third. Surreal.

  • “I’ll give some speeches, just to replenish the ol’ coffers.”
    Who the hell would pay big bucks to hear an idiot speak? But I suspect that Daddy will be calling favors to help Junior on the lecture circuit (ie Moonies.)

    “But the fundamental question is, is the world better off as a result of your leadership?”
    Well, CB. The short answer is HELL NO!

  • I never knew that leading made a leader unpopular. Someone should tell Bush that an unpopular leader is certain to fail.

    Apparently Bush thinks he had nothing to do with the plan to disband the Iraqi army. That “wasn’t the policy,” but yet our “leader” doesn’t know or care why his subordinates committed this colossal blunder against his orders. Amazing.

    I think that disbanding the Iraqi army was the policy all along, but now Bush doesn’t want to take responsibility for his mistakes. This may be a sign that he’s going to start pointing fingers of blame at others in his administration. That will surely make them point back, giving us fascinating insight into Bush’s “leadership” style. I’ll bet that “Medal of Freedom” Paul Bremer is preparing a response right now.

    Can you imagine anyone so shallow and ignorant as George W. Bush? And to think that people used to say that Bush was the candidate that they would most like sit down and have a beer with. I can’t imagine anything more boring.

  • ~~~~~~~~~~~

    Remember:
    Americans voted for this brute in droves.
    At the very least he is a condensation of 50% of our countrymen.

    So take a good healthy look at the new American ugliness:

    It’s dumb.
    It’s about money.
    It’s arrogant.
    It lacks all serious reflection.
    It can’t talk a straight line.
    It is certain of its own moral uprightness.

    Brutes in droves…
    Goats and monkeys.
    Bush is America.
    And America is Bush.

    Is there any wonder why the rest of the world wants to spit in our face?

  • Hi Steve,

    You’re so consistently right in your analyses, but I think you overlook the key thing here.

    We know that for these people “I don’t remember” means “I don’t want to talk about it.”

    I’m sure Bush knows exactly what happened with that disastrous decision to disband the Iraqi army. I suspect that the details represent one of the great f— ups still unreported about the war. Was it Bremer free-lancing? Was it Cheney circumventing the policy consensus to get his way? Was it just the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing?

    A quick review of contemporary articles suggests it was Rumsfeld and his boys at OSP, especially that moron Doug Feith. We know that Bremer reported directly to Rumsfeld.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A63423-2003Nov19

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/democracy/neocon_fantasy_3919.jsp

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pentagon/interviews/slocombe.html

    Nick Burbules

  • “… Bush sounds like a confused child ….”

    Because he is one. An arrogant, inconsiderate, mean, volatile, spoiled, perverse and confused sixty-one-year-old child.

    As to the country being better off, today’s Doonesbury makes the point our journalists should be making: 70% of our nation’s $9 Trillion bar bill was racked up under these three stooges: Reagan and the two Bushes.

  • If Bush had any sense of Christian decency [snort] he would shave his head, join a monastary and spend the rest of his life repenting for his sins.

    As for what he plans to do post presidency, this appears to be the only honest statement he has made in his life

  • Oh my god…this idjit is president…

    He is as deep and intelligent as a sit com: Marie A. had nothing on him.

    The Scarey part is that he or his minions are destroying the world as fast as we let him/them.

  • people accuse you of unilateral arrogance, and that may be true

    Nice of him to finally admit he is an arrogant twit. Hope everyone who voted for him because they thought Gore was the arrogant one reads this and repents.

    So it sounds like he is pushing off knowledge — presumably from direct involvement in the massive error — on Hadley. You know, the one who has been promoted since then. Typical BushCo approach to personnel.

  • i think monkeyboy is in for a surprise at how his phone calls will not be returned.

    he’s served his function — figurehead for the big money boyz to keep the jeebus rubes distracted while they loot the treasury of the united states. they have no more use for him; he’ll be discarded like so many wounded veterans…

  • PPs
    From A Man Without a Country by Kurt Vonnegut

    ”I was once asked if I had any ideas for a really scary reality TV show. I have one reality show that would make your hair

    stand on end: ”C-Students from Yale.”

    George W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or georgraphy, plus not-so-closeted

    white supremacists, aka Christians, and plus, most frighteningly, pschopathic personalities, or PPs, the medical term for smart,

    personable people who have no consciences.

    To say somebody is a PP is to make a perfectly respectable diagnosis, like saying he or she has appendicitis or athlete’s foot.

    The classic medical text on PPs is The Mask of Sanity by Dr. Hervey Cleckley, a clinical professor of psychiatry at the Medical

    College of Georgia, and published in 1941. Read it!

    So many of these heartless PPs now hold big jobs in our government, as though they were leaders instead of sick. They have taken charge. They have taken charge of communications and the schools, so we might as well be Poland under occupation.

    They might have felt that taking our country into an endless war was simply something decisive to do. What has allowed so many PPs to rise so high in corporations, and now in government, is that they are so decisive. They are going to do something every fuckin’ day and they are not afraid. Unlike normal people, they are never filled with doubts, for the simple reason that they
    don’t give a fuck what happens next. Simply can’t. Do this! Do that! Mobilize the reserves! Privatize the public schools! AttackIraq! Cut health care! Tap everybody’s telephone! Cut taxes on the rich! Build a trillion-dollar missle shield! Fuck habeas corpusand the Sierra Club and In These Times, and kiss my ass!”

    Now think of Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Condi, Wolfowitz, Perle, Gonzo, Rove, etal. – All certified PPs.

  • Yes, after reading the NYT piece I have now had my suspicions confirmed: no matter the outcome of the 2000 election, Americans re-elected the village idiot in 2004 – so, who’s the fool fool? -Kevo

  • Actually, Former Dan, when you ask “who would go listen to him?” I get this picture of our fellow hobbyists at a certain website, all sitting in rapt attention like the people on the benches at the Nuremburg Rally in “Triumph of the Will”, leaping to their feet to throw the salute and shout “Seig heil!” And you know they’d love it.

  • So Bremer defied policy. Was he even reprimanded? If someone in the administration makes a political blunder, like blurting out the truth, they are gone. Making a policy blunder, on the other hand, is not even worth following up on. He punts the question to Hadley.

    His post-Presidency will simply cement his legacy as a crass, venal clod. We will get the occasional quote from him that will further amplify his cluelessness, and keep him the butt of jokes from late night comedians for years to come.

  • The true horror is that this man was never “elected”. We now know he lost both elections, appointed to the 1st term, stole his 2nd term. He has been one big fraud as a politician, as a president, as a human being. “Look dad,…look what I got away with”.

    Does anyone really believe that all the deaths he is responsible for mean a damn thing to him? Not only does he not care, he never even thinks about it.

  • Bush is an evil man. I don’t think he cares one bit about our brave people who have died in this illegal war. Nor is he concerned about how many more will be killed because he wants to pursue an impossible conclusion. I can fall asleep at night dreaming about a Congress majority in 2008 with at least 61 senators without Joe and a Democrat president whoever he/she may be. First order of business in January 09 is to authorize a Supreme Court of eleven Justices. Then impeach Alito for lying at his Justice nomination. In your face religious nuts.

  • Naked and Braindead.

    He seems pretty sure of himself and his legacy – I wonder in Baker and the boys are on board to “fix” the legacy too.

  • Man, that there’s some profundity, ain’t it? How do Texans tell the difference between a cowflop and Georgie Boy? Cowflop would probably contribute more to the landscape than that waste of human flesh. Seriously, this is a man who, but for his family’s wealth and social connections, would be picking half-smoked butts out of the gutter and panhandling for his next bottle, if he wasn’t in prison.

    Speaking of prison, I think orange would look real good on him, don’t you?

  • On a related matter, I read another part of this excerpt in the local paper this morning, and Bush was talking about the hazards of “self-pity.” That self-pity is the worst place a president can go. Then, he mentions that Laura reminds him that he is the one who wanted to be president, and that he must face the music, so to speak. It seems he is like a child who took up a musical instrument, only to not like practicing after a week. But, he must finish the commitment, and he whines and complains the whole time.

  • 5. On September 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 am, ROTFLMLiberalAO said:

    So take a good healthy look at the new American ugliness:

    It’s dumb.
    It’s about money.
    It’s arrogant.
    It lacks all serious reflection.
    It can’t talk a straight line.
    It is certain of its own moral uprightness.

    Has anyone noticed a rise in crime in our cities over the past 6+ years? Isn’t this what happened during the Reagan/Bush years as well? Is their a connection going on between Republican style government and a rise in crime?

  • I’m also writing a book. Mine is called …
    “The Wisdom of George W. Bush.
    It’s going to be one page long. I’m still working on the first sentence and having writer’s block.
    Passages from contributing authors are encouraged.
    Please help me flesh out this important work.

    Thx

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