Groundhog Day — Iran edition

You know, this sure does sound familiar.

Some senior [tag]Bush[/tag] administration officials and top Republican lawmakers are voicing anger that American spy agencies have not issued more ominous warnings about the [tag]threat[/tag]s that they say [tag]Iran[/tag] presents to the United States.

Some policy makers have accused [tag]intelligence[/tag] agencies of playing down Iran’s role in Hezbollah’s recent attacks against Israel and overestimating the time it would take for Iran to build a nuclear weapon.

The complaints, expressed privately in recent weeks, surfaced in a Congressional report about Iran released Wednesday. They echo the tensions that divided the administration and the Central Intelligence Agency during the prelude to the war in Iraq.

In other words, there are a number of high-ranking Republican officials who want a [tag]confrontation[/tag] with a Middle Eastern country they believe is an imminent threat. Intelligence officials consider the foreign foe a problem, but haven’t produced the evidence the Republicans want to see. Therefore, there must be something wrong with the intelligence officials — they’re getting in the way of a perfectly good war. Sound familiar?

As Matthew Yglesias put it, “After all, last time there was a dispute like that, the alarmist politicians were completely vindicated and the skeptics in the intelligence community definitively refuted. You all remember that. Right?”

GOP leaders have drawn their conclusions, so naturally, it’s time to find evidence that supports those conclusions. Of course, since we know bupkis about the current state of the Iranian threat, that might be a problem.

“American intelligence agencies do not know nearly enough about Iran’s nuclear weapons program” to help policymakers at a critical time, the report’s authors say. Information “regarding potential Iranian chemical weapons and biological weapons programs is neither voluminous nor conclusive,” and little evidence has been gathered to tie Iran to al-Qaeda and to the recent fighting between Israel and Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, they say.

Noting “significant gaps” in U.S. intelligence, Fleitz’s report suggests that the United States could not effectively engage in talks with Tehran.

As Kevin summarized the situation, “It’s not just that we don’t really know anything about their nuclear, biological, etc. programs. We don’t even know enough to talk to them intelligently.”

I find it more than a little disconcerting that we’re seeing the exact same drama being played out, step by step, despite the tragic mistakes that unfolded the last time. What makes these guys think they have any credibility left on assessing foreign threats?

Of course, if they stick to the script, the next scene will feature a generous dose of cherry-picking, behind-the-scenes chats with the British about “fixing” intelligence around a policy, and media allies bolstering conservatives’ talking points. That last point has already begun in earnest.

Today on MSNBC, Chris Mathews hosted a segment entitled “Is Iran Next?” Matthews said that Bill Kristol and other neoconservatives “may be right” when they argue that Bush “has to hit” Iran militarily.

It’s like deja vu all over again.

I’m sure they can get the info they need on Iran by tapping the phones of American citizens and waterboarding some detainees at Gitmo. At least Iran is part of the axis of evil (sure to be used as justification at some point).

Between this story and the off the cuff, unscripted comment of Katrina victim (and GOP operative/stooge) Rockey V suggesting Bush should get a third term I am growing concerned about the honesty and integrity of the President of the United States. I hate to disrespect the office but jeebers guys, does anyone else think something is just not right here?

  • Important to note this:

    “Jamal Ware, spokesman for the House intelligence committee, said three staff members wrote the report, but he did not dispute that the principal author was Frederick Fleitz, a former CIA officer who had been a special assistant to John R. Bolton, the administration’s former point man on Iran at the State Department.”

    So the game seems to be to claim that we don’t know enough about Iran to negotiate, which leaves war as the only option. We have to be sure that Iran’s nukes don’t fall into the hands of al Qaeda – one percent doctrine and all that. And, of course, there’s no way for regular folks to verify this “fact” because, you know, all that information is classified.

    Frankly, who gives a shit about bio and chem weapons. They’re not the threat we need to worry about – the nukes are. And speaking of Iranian nukes, wasn’t that part of Valerie Plame’s beat? Just sayin’.

  • And question to the more knowledgeable folks out there. Does anyone happen to know what kind of things Fleitz worked on at CIA?

  • This just opens up a whole bunch of questions here.

    Attack Iran with what (conventional) military?

    Considering the tempo of combat ops and extravagant use of airpower in Iraq, does the US have anything that could be considered combat ready?

    Did the neoboobs not learn the lessons of Iraq? It looks like they’re still thinking war is the game Risk. “I will attack Persia with six armies from the Middle East and come’on triple sixes!”

    I don’t know much about Iran’s real military capabilities, but all one needs to do is look at the demographics. Iran has around 70 million people while Iraq has a mere 28 million.

    I guess they’re thinking special weapons here (nooklear)

  • Okay, this came up when I Googled Fleitz:
    http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/002034.html
    “Bolton’s acting chief of staff Frederick Fleitz, who had his own unusual arrangement whereby he worked simultaneously for the CIA’s nonproliferation arm WINPAC while working for Bolton…”

    That’s cozy.

    Fleitz also wrote a book, “Peacekeeping Fiascoes of the 1990s: Causes, Solutions, and U.S. Interests” (Hardcover)
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0275973670/sr=8-1/qid=1156426062/ref=sr_1_1/104-7657443-3119160?ie=UTF8

    There are only three customer reviews, two very positive and one not so much. From the latter: “Fleitz’s central thesis in the book is that the US should have built up its own unilateral forces after the Cold War instead of pouring money into the United Nations and Global Peacekeeping. ”

    Just so we’re clear on Fleitz’s biases.

  • I just can’t see congress letting this happen. Iraq is going down the tubes and polls show more and more people disliking the war. I can’t see our government thinking that invading Iran is somehow going to correct our problems, make them more electable, or strengthen the republican party. It’s one thing to support what you’ve gotten yourself into, it’s another thing to support getting yourself into something new. they may wait until after the elections to really start pushing this (they definitely won’t do anything before then) but even then I can’t see this getting legs.

  • Not again! The last time the righteous right distorted the facts to suit their paranoia (or nefarious ends, depending upon how you view their motivation) and launched a premptive strike without sufficient justifcation or planning, there was moaning and groaning, but not a lot of in-the-street, in-your-face protesting. I hope to god America has learned something since then, and hits the streets before it’s too late. (A hearty “good morning” to all you good folks in the NSA).

  • What makes these guys think they have any credibility left on assessing foreign threats?

    Bingo. As long as Democrats wimp out with the, “I’m a patriot too,” script, rather than call Republican-cranks out on this nuttiness, then America is in deep sh*t.

  • This Fleitz guy sounds like a real winner. There is no way they could do anything before the mid-terms. Everyone who voted to go to Iran would be swept from office. Maybe Dems need to executer a Rovian XK-Red-27 technique and start ssaying that if you don’t vote for Democrats Republicans will authorize Bush to attack Iran, institute a draft, drown a kitten etc.etc.

  • I just can’t see congress letting this happen.

    And Bush would care what Congress thinks because … ? It’s not like oversight of the executive branch is something about which he pays any attention, so all he’ll do is order an attack via his Commander in Chief powers.

    Oh, and the PR offensive for a strike against Iran has already started. Since they don’t have enough concrete evidence about Iranian WMDs, they’re using the “they’re part of the insurgency” angle.

    I expect it’ll keep growing in the run-up to November.

  • The one bright spot is that Republicans likely can’t build a “case” for attacking Iran in time to dramatically affect midterm elections. Congress is in recess, we’ll be hearing a bit about Hurricane Katrina again, maybe immigration “reform” will come up again, and then there’s the Iraq war. There are too many issues demanding the public’s attention for this to take hold in any meaningful way.

    Then the GOP has this problem: They’ve purged the intelligence agencies of dedicated analysts and replaced them with partisan lackeys. This is Bush’s “answer” to the intelligence failures from Iraq. After remaking the CIA into a Bush political machine, they still can’t get the cooked intelligence to justify attacking Iran.

  • “since we know bupkis about the current state of the Iranian threat, that might be a problem.”

    Well, yes, but we do know that there’s an election on the way, and that’s what counts here. It’s fall product roll-out time again.

  • ***Attack Iran with what (conventional) military?***
    ——————–Dan

    Might I suggest you review HR 4752: The Universal National Service Act of 2006? It’s in the Military Personnel subcommittee for House Armed Forces right now—and it’s just “chock-full” of cute little phrases, such as “Presidential Prerogative” and “Presidential Discretion.”

    If this thing ever passes, Herr Bush won’t need Congress to bring on the draft. “All men and women between ages 18 and 42;” “deferment/exemption qualifications subject to review by the President”—this just gets worse by the moment. Fast-tracking this nightmare-of-a-bill could possibly put it through a GOP-controlled Congress, and have it on the simian-in-chief’s desk before a Dem-controlled Congress could be seated. Write your Congressional Representative and your Senators now, people—do NOT let this nightmare come to pass. Also—in the event of a “national emergency” and the establishment of martial law, the nation could be divided into “military districts.” Anyone want to bet on whether martial law could “suspend” an election?

  • What should we say?
    Don’t believe the Bush Bullies. These are little boys crying wolf. Period.
    Follow up with, please don’t be frightened, these little boys did this to us before (Iraq), and we are in one hell of a mess because of it.
    We have more to fear by believing them, than by not believing them.
    Keep it simple.
    Keep it simple.
    Keep it simple.

  • I think I’ve got it: we invade Iran and that way we have not two separate wars but one continuous war across the Middle East. This way Bush gets credit for halving the number of wars we’re involved with.

    More seriously, I don’t think the timing issue constrains Bush at all – I think he’d rather have an attack right before the midterm elections, and would simply launch some weapons, call for patriotic support of the Republican government ‘in this time of national emergency’, and worry about congress later. (It’s not like there’s the slightest risk that they might even hold hearings or something.) If the administration is seriously considering this, given the lack of available military manpower, they have to be thinking of cruise missiles and nuclear weapons, but could they possibly be that insane? If we were talking about anyone other than the noecons and the current crop of Republicans I’d consider such a concern to be silly, but with this crowd in office I’m worried.

  • Write your Congressional Representative and your Senators now, people—do NOT let this nightmare come to pass. Also—in the event of a “national emergency” and the establishment of martial law, the nation could be divided into “military districts.” Anyone want to bet on whether martial law could “suspend” an election?
    Comment by Steve — 8/24/2006 @ 10:11 am

    Okay, let’s not get hysterical. According to GovTrack, Democrat Charles Rangel is the sponsor of this bill. Here’s the text of the bill: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h109-4752.

    Key excerpt:

    4 (a) OBLIGATION FOR SERVICE.–It is the obligation
    5 of every citizen of the United States, and every other per-
    6 son residing in the United States, who is between the ages
    7 of 18 and 42 to perform a period of national service as
    8 prescribed in this Act unless exempted under the provi-
    9 sions of this Act.
    10 (b) FORM OF NATIONAL SERVICE.–National service
    11 under this Act shall be performed either–
    12 (1) as a member of an active or reserve compo-
    13 nent of the uniformed services; or
    14 (2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by
    15 the President, promotes the national defense, includ-
    16 ing national or community service and homeland se-
    17 curity.

    So you necessarily be heading to Iraq or Afghanistan, though the President has discretion about what constitues domestic service.

  • Steve, here is some background on the bill which concerns you.

    Rep. Charles Rangel introduced a bill in Congress Tuesday to reinstate the military draft, saying fighting forces should more closely reflect the economic makeup of the nation.-CNN 1/08/03

    The House of Representatives yesterday overwhelmingly rejected a Democrat-sponsored bill to revive a military draft in a last-minute vote scheduled by its Republican leadership to squelch rumors that the Bush administration is planning to re-institute mandatory military service.
    “For two months — especially on college campuses — they’ve used the draft as a fear tactic to get people to vote against George W. Bush,” House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, Texas Republican, said of Democrats.
    “We’ve had enough of that. We’re going to call them on it. The Democrats are the only people that have a bill instituting the draft; we’re going to bring it out there, and we’re going to put a nail in it.” The Washington Times -10/06/04

    Rangel reintroduced his legislation this year. As best I can tell it is stuck in subcommittee.

    While is possible that BushCo. may decided to ride into Iran on this vehicle, I seriously doubt it. I don’t think they’d support a draft any more than a tax cut. It goes against a basic tenant of their governing philosophy: the rich must benefit and the rest must pay either in money or life. It is far more likely that they’ll try to do Iran on the cheap should they decided to expand the gulf war.

  • “little evidence has been gathered to tie Iran to al-Qaeda”

    That’s because there is NO TIE! One is a Shia dominated country and the other is Sunni based terrorist group. AND THEY HATE EACH OTHER. The only intelligence we get is lies from Iranian exiles trying to get us to ‘regime change’ Iran.

    Effing Morons!

  • You know, there are a few things all the war hounds on the right keep forgetting:

    1. Iran isn’t some backasswards country with a weak ass military — they’re fairly modern and have one of the stronger armies in the Middle East.

    2. They want to attack nuclear facilities, which are, naturally, filled with nuclear material. I’m no physicist or weapons expert, but isn’t detonating explosives near radioactive material probably not the best idea?

    3. Other than Britain (which are basically our ‘ho), the chances of any other country supporting military action are about the same as my 83-year old grandmother starting at QB for the Indianapolis Colts this year.

    For those on the left, a few things to remember:

    1. Bush doesn’t give a damn about Congress — if anything, I’d bet he’d actually wait for Congress to go to recess before doing anything. That way, there’s no one to stop him.

    2. There aren’t enough troops left for any kind of ground offensive. Odds are, it’d be an all-out and absolutely devastating air assualt. After all, we all know the President’s a big fan of those.

    3. This is going to happen — it’s just a matter of when.

    Quite frankly, The Mrs. and I are looking for jobs and housing outside of the country. Seriously … neither one of us is convinced that this will end well, and we don’t want our son growing up in a country in a perpetual war.

    We hear the Netherlands are great this time of year …

  • Ain’t going to be no war.

    Iran’s oil flow is too essential to the world’s economy.
    And even though the US doesn’t import Iran’s oil… others do.

    So a war would effect American gasoline prices directly.
    And that is bad politics and bad for US businesses.

    So: NO WAR.

    The saber rattling and lie telling is being done for one purpose:

    To pad the future budgets of the military industrial complex, and to provide an excuse to cut the budgets of various social services…

  • The text, from loc.gov:

    109th CONGRESS

    2d Session

    H. R. 4752

    To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    February 14, 2006

    Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

    A BILL

    To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

    (a) Short Title- This Act may be cited as the `Universal National Service Act of 2006′.

    (b) Table of Contents- The table of contents for this Act is as follows:

    Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.

    Sec. 2. National service obligation.

    Sec. 3. Two-year period of national service.

    Sec. 4. Implementation by the President.

    Sec. 5. Induction.

    Sec. 6. Deferments and postponements.

    Sec. 7. Induction exemptions.

    Sec. 8. Conscientious objection.

    Sec. 9. Discharge following national service.

    Sec. 10. Registration of females under the Military Selective Service Act.

    Sec. 11. Relation of Act to registration and induction authority of military selective service Act.

    Sec. 12. Definitions.

    SEC. 2. NATIONAL SERVICE OBLIGATION.

    (a) Obligation for Service- It is the obligation of every citizen of the United States, and every other person residing in the United States, who is between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of national service as prescribed in this Act unless exempted under the provisions of this Act.

    (b) Form of National Service- National service under this Act shall be performed either–

    (1) as a member of an active or reserve component of the uniformed services; or

    (2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by the President, promotes the national defense, including national or community service and homeland security.

    ***This is my first concern. There are a ton of non-combatant support positions that could be filled by civilians. Nothing in this bill identifies that “the civilian capacity” is domestic. Nothing in this bill denotes that “civilian service” will not be overseas.***

    (c) Induction Requirements- The President shall provide for the induction of persons covered by subsection (a) to perform national service under this Act.

    (d) Selection for Military Service- Based upon the needs of the uniformed services, the President shall–

    (1) determine the number of persons covered by subsection (a) whose service is to be performed as a member of an active or reserve component of the uniformed services; and

    (2) select the individuals among those persons who are to be inducted for military service under this Act.

    (e) Civilian Service- Persons covered by subsection (a) who are not selected for military service under subsection (d) shall perform their national service obligation under this Act in a civilian capacity pursuant to subsection (b)(2).

    ***Concern #2—“who are not selected for military service?” This has the makings of a nasty loophole here.***

    SEC. 3. TWO-YEAR PERIOD OF NATIONAL SERVICE.

    (a) General Rule- Except as otherwise provided in this section, the period of national service performed by a person under this Act shall be two years.

    (b) Grounds for Extension- At the discretion of the President, the period of military service for a member of the uniformed services under this Act may be extended–

    (1) with the consent of the member, for the purpose of furnishing hospitalization, medical, or surgical care for injury or illness incurred in line of duty; or

    (2) for the purpose of requiring the member to compensate for any time lost to training for any cause.

    (c) Early Termination- The period of national service for a person under this Act shall be terminated before the end of such period under the following circumstances:

    (1) The voluntary enlistment and active service of the person in an active or reserve component of the uniformed services for a period of at least two years, in which case the period of basic military training and education actually served by the person shall be counted toward the term of enlistment.

    (2) The admission and service of the person as a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military Academy, the United States Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Academy, the Coast Guard Academy, or the United States Merchant Marine Academy.

    (3) The enrollment and service of the person in an officer candidate program, if the person has signed an agreement to accept a Reserve commission in the appropriate service with an obligation to serve on active duty if such a commission is offered upon completion of the program.

    (4) Such other grounds as the President may establish.

    SEC. 4. IMPLEMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT.

    (a) In General- The President shall prescribe such regulations as are necessary to carry out this Act.

    (b) Matter to Be Covered by Regulations- Such regulations shall include specification of the following:

    (1) The types of civilian service that may be performed for a person’s national service obligation under this Act.

    ***This specific item plays directly to concern #1.***

    (2) Standards for satisfactory performance of civilian service and of penalties for failure to perform civilian service satisfactorily.

    ***Again—the President has the sole authority to establish these standards?***

    (3) The manner in which persons shall be selected for induction under this Act, including the manner in which those selected will be notified of such selection.

    (4) All other administrative matters in connection with the induction of persons under this Act and the registration, examination, and classification of such persons.

    (5) A means to determine questions or claims with respect to inclusion for, or exemption or deferment from induction under this Act, including questions of conscientious objection.

    ***The President gets to determine what constitutes “Conscientious Objection?”***

    (6) Standards for compensation and benefits for persons performing their national service obligation under this Act through civilian service.

    ***The President decides how much to pay people?***

    (7) Such other matters as the President determines necessary to carry out this Act.

    (c) Use of Prior Act- To the extent determined appropriate by the President, the President may use for purposes of this Act the procedures provided in the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.), including procedures for registration, selection, and induction.

    SEC. 5. INDUCTION.

    (a) In General- Every person subject to induction for national service under this Act, except those whose training is deferred or postponed in accordance with this Act, shall be called and inducted by the President for such service at the time and place specified by the President.

    (b) Age Limits- A person may be inducted under this Act only if the person has attained the age of 18 and has not attained the age of 42.

    (c) Voluntary Induction- A person subject to induction under this Act may volunteer for induction at a time other than the time at which the person is otherwise called for induction.

    (d) Examination; Classification- Every person subject to induction under this Act shall, before induction, be physically and mentally examined and shall be classified as to fitness to perform national service. The President may apply different classification standards for fitness for military service and fitness for civilian service.

    ***This has “Hogan’s Heroes” written all over it.***

    SEC. 6. DEFERMENTS AND POSTPONEMENTS.

    (a) High School Students- A person who is pursuing a standard course of study, on a full-time basis, in a secondary school or similar institution of learning shall be entitled to have induction under this Act postponed until the person–

    (1) obtains a high school diploma;

    (2) ceases to pursue satisfactorily such course of study; or

    (3) attains the age of 20.

    (b) Hardship and Disability- Deferments from national service under this Act may be made for–

    (1) extreme hardship; or

    (2) physical or mental disability.

    (c) Training Capacity- The President may postpone or suspend the induction of persons for military service under this Act as necessary to limit the number of persons receiving basic military training and education to the maximum number that can be adequately trained.

    (d) Termination- No deferment or postponement of induction under this Act shall continue after the cause of such deferment or postponement ceases.

    SEC. 7. INDUCTION EXEMPTIONS.

    (a) Qualifications- No person may be inducted for military service under this Act unless the person is acceptable to the Secretary concerned for training and meets the same health and physical qualifications applicable under section 505 of title 10, United States Code, to persons seeking original enlistment in a regular component of the Armed Forces.

    (b) Other Military Service- No person shall be liable for induction under this Act who–

    (1) is serving, or has served honorably for at least six months, in any component of the uniformed services on active duty; or

    (2) is or becomes a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military Academy, the United States Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Academy, the Coast Guard Academy, the United States Merchant Marine Academy, a midshipman of a Navy accredited State maritime academy, a member of the Senior Reserve Officers’ Training Corps, or the naval aviation college program, so long as that person satisfactorily continues in and completes at least two years training therein.

    SEC. 8. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION.

    (a) Claims as Conscientious Objector- Nothing in this Act shall be construed to require a person to be subject to combatant training and service in the uniformed services, if that person, by reason of sincerely held moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, is conscientiously opposed to participation in war in any form.

    (b) Alternative Noncombatant or Civilian Service- A person who claims exemption from combatant training and service under subsection (a) and whose claim is sustained by the local board shall–

    ***”…and whose claim is substantiated by the local board….” Considering that those “boards” will be functioning under the watchful (read: unencumbered by Congress) oversight of the President, who has the apparent authority to determine what canstitutes CO status, almost anyone claiming CO status could be summarily inducted for military service. There doesn’t appear to be any appeals process here that’s independent of Presidential prerogative (i.e., the decisions of “The Decider….)***

    (1) be assigned to noncombatant service (as defined by the President), if the person is inducted into the uniformed services; or

    ***Doesn’t it seem odd that the President decides what constitutes “noncombatant service?”***

    (2) be ordered by the local board, if found to be conscientiously opposed to participation in such noncombatant service, to perform national civilian service for the period specified in section 3(a) and subject to such regulations as the President may prescribe

    ***again, “if found” by the local board—which acts via instructions by the President.***

    SEC. 9. DISCHARGE FOLLOWING NATIONAL SERVICE.

    (a) Discharge- Upon completion or termination of the obligation to perform national service under this Act, a person shall be discharged from the uniformed services or from civilian service, as the case may be, and shall not be subject to any further service under this Act.

    (b) Coordination With Other Authorities- Nothing in this section shall limit or prohibit the call to active service in the uniformed services of any person who is a member of a regular or reserve component of the uniformed services.

    ***Here’s the catch—for someone already in the service—whether active or reserve status—they can be called for a two-year stint. It might not matter if they’re short-timers, or if they’ve just come home from a tour, or if they’re just ending a tour. Yes—earlier in this “Act” (7.B.1, to be precise), currently-serving members of the armed forces are exempt from induction—but this last bit identifies that they’re not exempt from serving under the auspices of this Act.***

    So—the President gets to say who goes, who stays, who goes where, whether or not CO status is valid, and what constitutes “non-military” and “non-combatant” service. That’s the President—not Congress, but the President. Anyone in the mood to drive a convoy of great big gasoline trucks through the streets of beautiful downtown Tehran? Male or female—if you’re 18-to-42, that just might be your “civilian service.”

    By the way—this thing was tossed in the trash-heap before; why hasn’t it been tossed in the trash-heap again?

  • That bill is Rangel’s crusade to equalize race and class in the military. Of course, all it really does is make it look like the Democrats support a draft.

    As if rich folk would sever even if there was a draft, isn’t that right Cheney?

  • I know, Lance…but I didn’t want it to look like one of those cherry-picking exercises the GOPpers are famous for. But it’s really worth a read-through….

  • Steve,
    The short version is: my son is packed off to whichever hell of Mr Bush’s choosing, while Jenna and Barbara scarf pretzels in an office and get to wear cutsey “uniforms”

  • Yes, libra—that’s exactly how this could play out. Rangel’s intentions might be good here, but the way the bill is written right now, the current C-in-C (who’s really got nothing to lose, by the way) could take this bill, once enacted into law, and literally decide who goes and who stays. The sons and daughters of hyperwealthy Dems could be trucked off while impoverished families who voted GOP get to keep their children home—thus proving the validity of Rangel’s plan (I seem to remember Charlie Rangel being involved in a Tinkertoy-type study involving Social Security payment diversions—’98 or ’99, I believe—that intentionally excluded a lot of the numbers that should have been involved concerning funding levels if monies were allowed to shift into private accounts).

    Right now—with no one on the Hill willing to officially “kill” this particular bill—I wouldn’t be too shocked if this were part of the dreaded “October Surprise.” Common sense dictates that a war with Iran would be sheer madness, given the current strain on personnel reserves and availability. “This” would be the perfect solution for a president who has nothing to lose….

  • Dear President Bush,

    It’s not that we don’t think a nuclear Iran may be a threat at some point in the future, although they will probably be more stable then Pakistan or North Korea, both nuclear armed countries nobody’s talking about invading or bombing.

    It’s just that we would be fools to follow a President with your track record into any additional wars. Losing two or three (depending on how you count them) is surely enough for one President. To paraphrase – “Fool me once … wont get fooled again”.

    For once, we all agree.

    Your Boss,

    John Q. Public

  • Not to beat around the bush,

    those in charge of your country have kinda lost the plot. im not sayin our english bosses are any better as they follow rulings like donkeys to the carrot. but Bush needs to GO, he is no good for your country and he will ruin the society which you and your children have to live in. Once he is gone, who knows, maybe all the headf**ked pyschos that agree with his unbelievably ridiculous views will come to their senses. IRAN IS NOT A THREAT. this is an issue of control and once a certain degree of it has been coerced elsewhere, those in charge are beyond the point of no return. they are in no mans land. Iran has developed nuclear facilities so that their future generations will not question why they have no alternative power. HELLO, its no secret that natural resources are running out, FAST. so Iran have had the balls and pace to organise a program that will solve this problem to a certain degree. how the f**k to they get this to mean that Iran might attack the US?!

    get a grip for ur own sake

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