Lieberman in ‘no man’s land’

Even after losing the Democratic primary to [tag]Ned Lamont[/tag] (D), Sen. [tag]Joe Lieberman[/tag] (I) nevertheless expressed some pride in being a Democrat. He said he was “proud” of his party affiliation and looked forward to caucusing with the party if he returned to the Senate in January. As recently as late August, Lieberman reiterated his belief that he’s a “committed Democrat.”

And then, ol’ Joe, confident that he could probably win with minimal Dem support, started to stray. On Aug. 30, [tag]Lieberman[/tag] suggested that if his candidacy prevented Dems from winning back the House, it’s the party’s fault, not his, because they voted against him in a primary.

Over the weekend, Lieberman took this tack even further.

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, a lifelong Democrat and student of politics, blanked when asked if America would be better off with his party regaining control of the U.S. [tag]House[/tag] of Representatives.

A Democratic victory would immeasurably boost the influence of two Connecticut friends, U.S. Reps. Rosa L. DeLauro and John B. Larson, and provide a counterbalance to the Republican Senate and White House.

“Uh, I haven’t thought about that enough to give an answer,” Lieberman said, as though Democrats’ strong prospects for recapturing the House hadn’t been the fall’s top political story.

He was similarly elusive about the race for governor. Is he voting for John DeStefano Jr., a Democrat and mayor of the city where Lieberman has lived since the 1960s? “I’m, uh, I’m having,” he stammered, then laughed and said his decision would remain private.

Unfortunately, Lieberman’s the only one laughing.

Lieberman continues to say that he’ll caucus with the Dems if he wins, but how secure is that promise? Six weeks ago the man described himself as a “committed Democrat,” but now he’s defended Dennis Hastert’s handling of the Mark Foley scandal and won’t say whether he even wants a Dem majority in Congress. Indeed, Lieberman seriously expects voters to believe he hasn’t even “thought about” the central political question of the campaign season.

The same article highlighted the senator’s true ambitions.

He categorically ruled out accepting any post in the Bush administration. His goal, if the Democrats take the Senate, is to become the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee and serve his fourth six-year term.

“I’m not interested in anything else,” he said.

In other words, Joe Lieberman’s top priority remains Joe Lieberman. He wants to bash the party, reject its candidates, and dismiss its goals, and then he wants that same party to reward him with a coveted committee chairmanship. All the while, everyone is supposed to simply take him at his word that he’ll stay with the party with which he no longer has any allegiance.

It’s as narcissistic a political exercise as I’ve seen in a very long time.

“It’s as narcissistic a political exercise as I’ve seen in a very long time.”

Aye… but he was once a decent man.

Few things are as toxic to mental health as the fame and power that comes with being a US Senator.

Joe’s problem is that he suffers his Senatorial poison in such an insufferable way. His haughtiness fairly begs to be assaulted with a tin of humble pie…

My prediction:

His psyche is bent beyond repair. He will lose to Lamont and his concession speech will be insufferably rude.

  • I hope Ned comes out swinging in today’s debate, and I truly hope the 35% of Connecticut Dems who switched to the “CFL party” get an eye-opening experience.

  • Lieberman should be an education to any political party of why you support the winners of your primaries.

  • My prediction on Holy Joe remains unchanged since the primary:

    1. If the Democrats remain in the minority in the Senate, Joe will caucus with them (providing they allow him to keep his seniority). Joe thrashing Dems as a Dem gets him more press coverage, facetime on Fox and Imus, and lionization from the Broders and Kleins of the world than slamming Dems as a Rethug, once the novelty wears off. However, if the Dems withdraw his seniority, Joementum will likely caucus with the Rethugs.

    2. If the Dems get to 51 seats without Joe (very unlikely), Joe will probably caucus with the majority, though seniority may play a role.

    3. If the Dems get to 50 seats without Joe (more likely than No. 2, but still against the odds) Joe will likely join the Dark Side after a bidding war. Expect a more in sorrow than in anger speech about how the great Democratic party of his youth left him, not vice versa.

  • I thought Lieberman was about as big a jackass as he could be before, obviously I “misunderestimated” his abilities. Joe, you lost your LOCAL primary election. The people in your party DO NOT WANT YOU to represent them. The fact that you might be able to win because the Republicans have no viable candidate it beside the point.

    If he keeps it up and the Dems win the Senate I hope all Lieberman becomes it the chaiman of the CLF party caucus! Obviously, the GOP is even more fickle than the Dems (see Santorum and De Wine) when it comes to supporting losers!

    I see the President of Israel is in big trouble. Maybe Joe should start the Israel for Lieberman party and take his show on the road.

  • Revoltin’ Joe hasn’t broken any laws (that I know of) and has every right to play to the fear angle, attribute anti-semitism to his critics, and generally weasel his way to re-election. If Lamont and the democratic wing of the Democratic Party can’t get their nominee elected, tough. That’s politics. But claiming “he hasn’t even ‘thought about’ the central political question of the campaign season” bespeaks a fundamental character flaw in Mr. Sincerely Religious: it proves that he’s a typical senator, and a Republican one at that. Ugh.

  • In my comment above, I neglected to address the possibility of the Dems getting to 49 seats without Joe (and unfortunately, I think his victory in Connecticut is pretty likely). When the Senate was 50-50 in 2001, the parties reached an agreement that left the Republicans as the majority party (on the basis that Cheney had the deciding vote) but each party had equal membership on committees. Assuming they woulld adhere to this precedent, I’m sure the Rethugs would try to get Joe to switch to make it 51-49. I bet that he would, with the same unctious speech I previously referred to.

  • “Unfortunately, Lieberman’s the only one laughing.”

    No CB, there’s more than a few others in CT laughing as well. Like I have said before… watch Joe win in a few weeks and then watch the Dem leaders flock to him, begging for their forgiveness so he sticks with the Party caucus. You just watch, their standing ovation upon his return to the Senate in September was just the beginning of the Party leaders sucking up process.

  • Aye… but he was once a decent man.-Koreyel

    As the gollum was once a decent hobbit until he became consumed with possessing the ring of power that would destroy him.

    Power is the addiction of politics and few can withstand its corrupting influence. Lieberman is hooked to the point where he is an ugly shadow of his former ideals as he strangles the freedoms he once championed.

  • “As the gollum was once a decent hobbit until he became consumed with possessing the ring of power that would destroy him.” – kali

    Ah, a LotR reference. How amusing.

    Seamgol, it seems to me, was a pretty shady character long before he encountered the ring. If it was just a matter of the affect of the ring, it would have stayed with Dogal (sp), but no, it saw Seamgol as more likely candidate to hide away with for several hundred years.

    Lieberman I suspect has flaws that made him susceptible to the corruption of his nature evident of his vile repetation of Republican’t and Bushite talking points aimed at members of his own party and at the majority of the American people.

  • ***Uh, I haven’t thought about that enough to give an answer***
    ———Joe Lie

    Every mentally-able adult in Connecticut is going to know that this is an outright deception on Darth’s part. And the comments (above) concerning a hard push by the GOP to get this pathetic excuse for an honest man (*cough*cough*) are quite likely correct.

    If, for example, the House falls to Dems, I would then imagine that articles of impeachment could appear by the spring; mid-summer at the latest. Given this possibility, the GOP needs every last chance they can get to thwart an uprising against Herr Bush and his puppetmaster, Cheney, in the Senate. Should Bush and Cheney simultaneously go, a Dem House means the potential for a Dem President—and a Dem Veep—which allows for a Dem to be the tiebreaker in any Senate voting.

    Yep—there’a a lot of “if’s” in this whole sordid mess; however, the last hope to restrain Dem objectives, in this case, would be for the Senate to hold 51 solid seats

    If it finishes out at 51-49, favoring Dems, I wouldn’t be surprised to see ol’ Darth stand up and cross the aisle anyway. It would cause a 50-50 split, Cheney becomes the tiebreaker, and there’s no guarantee that the GOP would agree to split committees equally.

    Dems need 51 w/o Joe Lie; then they can tell him to “dream on” about that chairmanship. He’s the last person the country needs in that position, since he’d constantly be blocking things that “he” thinks don’t need open scrutiny.

    Lieberman is not, under any circumstances, to be trusted with something so crucial as “Homeland Security….”

  • Kerry does deserve a second chance in 2008.

    Kerry has single-handedly used his political organization to support the campaigns of veterans for office, provided their campaigns with crucial amounts of money at crucial moments, and done everything he could do to publicize their campaigns to financial supporters and make their campaigns known to voters, including going to the districts and campaigning for them. He has done a damn good job of publicizing and leading fights against “swift-boating” of these vet candidates, and if these candidates win they will be over 50% of the wins needed for the Democrats to take over the House.

    If you haven’t checked out his speeches over the past year, you have missed the fact that he presents the issues most people at this site think are important far better than Hillary, Biden, or the rest of the legends-in-their-own minds running for President (that includes all of them other than Edwards).

    I personally think someone who has not only survived the worst the Orcs could throw at him in 2004 but didn’t retreat afterwards and kept up the fight is in fact the kind of candidate we need, not to mention he knows now how to fight the bastards.

    Democrats are always busy throwing over their candidates after they lose (in the case of Mondale and Doo-doo-ca-ca with good reason), but a quick review of American political history shows several of our better presidents only got there on the second attempt.

  • Oh, and the best position I can think of for Holy Joe is face down in a ditch, bleeding out from a large-caliber exit wound.

    Goddamned traitor.

  • No CB, there’s more than a few others in CT laughing as well. Like I have said before… watch Joe win in a few weeks and then watch the Dem leaders flock to him, begging for their forgiveness so he sticks with the Party caucus. You just watch, their standing ovation upon his return to the Senate in September was just the beginning of the Party leaders sucking up process.

    Which doesn’t address whether he’s a loyal Democrat or a Republican masquerading as an “independent.” Joe’s already demonstrated he’ll do whatever it will take to keep his Senate seat. He’ll probably switch sides if it will get him his chairmanship. I’m sure you’ll still be snickering JRS Jr., but only because that’s what you’ve wanted all along.

  • If the good voters of Connecticutt won’t save us from this self-righteous piece of shit, then there’s always cancer and heart disease. Have some more rubber chicken, Joe!

  • I agree with Tom Cleaver that Kerry has done a lot for Democratic candidates as has Howard Dean. Neither of them should run for President. Let them continue doing what they succeed at. I admire Hillary Clinton and voted for her for the senate but I think the party needs another candidate. My hope is that Al Gore, who actually won the election in 2000, will run again.

  • Let Gore do what he does best, too. How about some new and visionary blood for the ticket: Edwards/Obama in 2008, or vice-versa. Not enough experience? Hey, after Bush brought down the bar so low, a high school student could get over it. The charisma factor with these two barnstorming around the country would be unbeatable.

  • Speaking, as I am, from the rural end of south-western VA, I think Kerry — much as I ended up admiring him myself — is both too intelligent and not “pretty” (good looking) enough to win the general around here. And Theresa (Kerry’s wife) raised hackles all over the place, far worse than Hillary. Edwards would be better and Wes Clark might have a chance (much as I would prefer Gore myself ). And both have been campaigning, flat out, on behalf of other Dems, same as Kerry. Anyone seen Clark’s “Call to Arms” appearance recently?

    Obama… I think he’s almost bound to end up as our President. At some point. But he needs time to grow up, same as Edwards did in ’04 (and he was only running for VP). It’s not just lack of experience; it’s also that he’s young and can afford to wait. ’16 as VP, ’24 as President, with the years before spent doing what he’s doing — building bridges and energising the base.

    Lieberman (to come back to the subject)… I don’t believe he’s been a true Dem in the past 8 yrs or so and, if he wins (though I still hope he won’t), I hope the muckety-mucks in DC show him a — well-deserved — cold shoulder and “reward” him with the chairmanship of House Floor Sweeping sub-committee. In the meantime… It would be nice if he ate shrimp and choked on the peel 🙂

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