‘Personally, I think he’s dying inside’

The Shakespearean drama between [tag]Bush[/tag] [tag]41[/tag] and Bush [tag]43[/tag] continues to grow increasingly bitter. The New York Daily News’ Thomas DeFrank, for example, noted over the weekend that aides to the first President Bush are becoming more and more candid in their criticisms of Jr.

Indeed, one of the worst-kept secrets in Bush World is the dismay, in some cases disdain, harbored by many senior aides of the former President toward the administration of his son – 41 and 43, as many call them, political shorthand that refers to their numerical places in American presidential history.

For five years, the 41s have bit their collective tongues as, they complain, the 43s ignored their counsel. But as the war in Iraq has worsened and public support for the current administration has tanked, loyalists of the elder Bush have found it impossible to suppress their disillusionment – particularly their belief that many of 43’s policies are a stick in the eye of his father.

“Forty-three has now repudiated everything 41 stands for, and still he won’t say a word,” a key member of the elder Bush alumni said. “Personally, I think he’s dying inside.”

Loyalists to 41 are starting to draw up fairly long lists of complaints. While 41 aimed for the middle, 43 is a divisive conservative. While 41 was a respected international figure, 43 embraces “cowboy diplomacy,” pushes away our allies, and diminishes U.S. authority around the globe. 41 listened to Colin Powell; 43 fired him.

Curt Smith, a speechwriter for 41, said, “Conservatives want limited government, a balanced Middle East approach, a foreign policy that builds, not destroys, and general, not special, interest. Bush 41 endorsed all of the above. Bush 43 supports none.”

It’s worth noting, of course, that this conflict isn’t new, but it is getting more obvious. Maureen Dowd recently noted, for example, that the current Bush seems to be blaming his father “for policies that led to 9/11 and the rise of Osama and Middle East terrorism.” Indeed, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow recently told reporters that “when the United States walked away, in the opinion of Osama bin Laden in 1991, bin Laden drew from that the conclusion that Americans were weak and wouldn’t stay the course, and that led to September 11th.” Who was president in 1991? Oh, right.

Moreover, Bush has personally blamed his predecessors for what he saw as a misguided belief that “stability is more important than form of government.” Dowd translated this to mean, “Dad cuddled up to the corrupt Saudi monarchy and other Middle East dictators and let Saddam stay in power and was tough on Israel. I got rid of Saddam to establish a democracy and uncritically sided with Israel, a democracy.”

A top 41 aide told Dowd that W. and Condi are “in over their heads,” and that without 41, Jim Baker, and Brent Scowcroft around, there is no one to “corral” Dick Cheney from his hard-line craziness.

Indeed, getting back to DeFrank’s piece, 41 loyalists seem to be reveling in their ability to say, “We told them so.”

“Everyone knew how Rumsfeld acts,” another key 41 assistant said. “Everyone knew 43 didn’t have an attention span. Everyone knew Condi [Rice] wouldn’t be able to stand up to Cheney and Rumsfeld. We told them all of this, and we were told we don’t know what we’re doing.”

Of course, as Salon’s Tim Grieve noted, all of this is fascinating as a family drama, but none of this is particularly helpful now: “If ‘everyone’ who worked for Bush I knew all along how bad Bush II would be, where were they, exactly, in 2000 and in 2004?”

They’re all dishing now, with biting sarcasm and obvious observations about what a joke of a president 43 is. Of course, everyone knows this now. If they were so convinced of 43’s ineptitude before, couldn’t they have offered a few subtle warnings to the rest of the country?

Nah. La Familia above all else. Capisce?

  • The Shakespearean drama between Bush 41 and Bush 43 continues to grow increasingly bitter. The New York Daily News’ Thomas DeFrank, for example, noted over the weekend that aides to the first President Bush are becoming more and more candid in their criticisms of Jr.

    excellent *in a Montgomery Burns voice*

  • I think I’ve seen the drama between 41 and 43 before in High School. Is Lear another word for Bush?

    It’s too bad that 41 never had a child like Cordelia.

  • Is it actual disgust or an attempt to line up a job in the next Administration?

    Yes, I’m that cynical.

    Whatever, Daddy has cossetted and covered for his son through out his life. If “41” is surprised BushBaby expects him to take the blame, screw him. Did he think sonny boy would suddenly understand personal responsibility when he got in the White House? If things get really bad we’ll be hear Laura distracted him just as he was about to collar Osama and the twins made Kim Jong Illin’ build a nuke.

    Irresponsible ARSE.

  • The real Mafia, according to the Godfather Saga anyway, morphed from stupid thuggery to sophisticated business executives. The Bush Crime Family seems to be going in the opposite direction, as a simple comparison of the Gulf War and the Iraq Quagmire demonstrates.

  • 41 listened to Colin Powell; 43 fired him.

    Colin Powell wasn’t fired. He was converted into a hollow shell and made unable to live with himself. Then he quit.

    I haven’t read Ashcroft’s new book yet, but wouldn’t it be weird if he

  • Er….

    It would be weird if Ashcroft felt as hollowed-out as Powell. If so, could Ashcroft be un-demonized?

  • Sorry, I don’t buy it for a moment. 43 learned the best (or shall I say the worst) from 41. Like father, like son.

    Senior, regardless of what he says, was a major player in the Iran-Contra deal and other not-so-niceties of the Reagan administration. Senior initiated the deal with the Saudis and cultivated it so Junior could inherit the relationship and exploit in his political career. Senior played dirty politics too (remember, “We’re gonna kick her ass” in referring to Ferraro?).

    Dad may have been more of a “true” conservative but that damn well doesn’t make him a better president nor did it make him more successful during his term. As I recall, 41’s term didn’t have a lot of highlights, especially when compared to what “Big Dawg” did in the following eight years.

    As far as I’m concerned, both Bushes should be dying inside. At least they give me heartburn!

  • “Indeed, getting back to DeFrank’s piece, 41 loyalists seem to be reveling in their ability to say, “We told them so.”

    Who do ytou suppose they told? The article seems to mention every main actor in the 43 administration. Cheney needed corraling, Rummy acts like Rummy (whatever that means), Condi and the POTUS were ill-equipt to do their jobs.

    Who are the puppet masters with which the 41 allies were confering when they were discussing the 43 presidency?

    Strange…

  • The GOP party above all else, and distance yourselves form the weak ones in the herd.
    To quote someone, “You’ve covered your ass now.”
    All of these people make me sick.

  • If, as the story goes, the “41-sters” knew about the “43-ites”—and did nothing to prevent the political terror attacks on November 2000/2004—then George Sr. and his staff are guilty of placing the United States of America, her Constitution, and her People in harm’s way. They have committed crimes against the Constitution—and for what? The chance to start a political dynasty?

    In the end of endings, the sins of the son—and the penalties of those sins—are thus visited upon the father. The positive aspects of George Sr.’s legacy are now sequestered from the public eye beneath the quilt of mud, filth, sewerage, and decay that is the near-bottomless pit of “extremist neoconservativism” excavated by this “Little Lord Fauntelroy” of the GOP….

  • TAIO, re Bush and Boy Bush. Just so!

    “Loyalists to 41 are starting to draw up fairly long lists of complaints. While 41 aimed for the middle, 43 is a divisive conservative.”

    43 saw his father’s failure to win reelection as proof that aiming for the middle was a failing strategy, and 2004 seems to have proven him right (in his mind anyway).

    These guys could of had McCain in 2000. They could of had anyone. They stayed quiet about Boy George II’s failings despite the fact that they need he was a cocaine-burned brain case. The case can easily be made that no one in the world deserves the blame more for Team 43 than Team 41.

  • Bush 41 looks good only in comparison to 43. It was GHWB who hired Lee Atwater to begin to divide the nation with the politics of hatred. Rove picked up the torch.

    While people who “know” waltz around the truth, Bush 43 destroys the country a little more each day.

  • Is there a genetic component to denial? I can’t help but believe that if Poppa Bush were to admit to himself what a waste his little 43 is, it would be more than he could bear to realize what an obvious failure he was as a parent. Denial is so much easier.

  • 41 and 43 deserve each other and we don’t deserve either one of them.

    I think there should be a moratorium on letting any politician out of Texas.

  • If the 41 team actually gave a damn, why did they help unleash these monsters ? I think they are all so horrified at the Frankenstein they created they can’t sleep, so this non-sense is coming out. Now they can sleep with their pockets lined with blood money.

    Or option B, 41 was such a sad pathetic parent, that he had no idea his kid was incapable of running a hotdog stand, much less a country.

    Which is worse. Either way I have nothing but contempt for every single member of that family that is sitting by and enabling Frankenstein. Are his feelings and their family name more important then nearly 300 million peoples lives.

    FYI. I can not wait until they declare the 300 million person, according to the Houston Chronicle, there is a damn good chance his parents will be illegals, let that one rip before the election.

  • Shakespeare, hell! We’re talking Greek tragedy and hubris here. Something akin to Sophocles’ Oedipus Rex. The Greeks understood scale–the scale to bring down a whole nation and not just a dysfunction family.

    (Sorry for showing-off, Lit. Major in attendence and Greek tragedy was my senior seminar)

  • The 41/43 feud strikes me as a little odd — considering that Bush Sr. had his hand in shaping Bush’s cabinet and presidency from Day 1. Who brought in the “biggest asshole” Prince Bandar for foreign policy cram session? Who suggested Cheney head up the search committee for a running mate? Or Colin Powell for Secretary of State? Or Donny Rumsfeld? Or Andy Card for Chief of Staff? Or Condi Rice for … well anything? All of these people have a much longer history with 41 than they do with George W.

    And let’s not forget Bush Family fixer James Baker led the legal challenge to the Florida recount. He’s now in the midst of figuring out the difficult decisions that need to be made regarding Iraq.

    This mess is at least partly of George H.W. Bush’s making. The “we told you so” seems like too little, too late.

  • This private little soap opera has its entertainment value, but Bush 41 and his cohorts shouldn’t feel smug — they enabled this current mess to happen.They kept loyalty to party above loyalty to the nation and publicly stayed quiet while they watched Bush 43 drive this nation off a cliff. If H.W. Bush, Baker, Powell and all the other “adults” of the 41 years had come out and offered constructive criticism of Bush 43 policies, they could have positively affected our current negative outcomes. Shame on them. We’re all paying for their silence.

  • Something akin to Sophocles’ Oedipus Rex.

    That conjures such hideous images involving Iron Babs and BushBoy and…eurrgh.

    And could Shrubipus have gotten past the Sphinx? Maybe if it asked a really easy question.

    Oh well, when do we get to the part where Shub blinds himself so he can’t see what a flustercuck he has made of everything? No wait, he’s already blinded by his own ignorance. Never mind.

    tAiO

    p.s. H-u-b-r-i-s. Got it.

  • as bill maher said this week, the subtitle of james baker’s report on iqaq is subtitled “i stole the 2000 election for this nitwit?”!

  • I actually feel a “little” sorry for 41. But not for snobby Barbara.
    He is killing his own father and I think he could care less.
    But he had to know his son was basically incompedent. He fuck–up every job he had. .

  • The Bush family omerta still working strong.

    Also, if 43 was your son would you want to go out in public and explain him? I don’t think so. The best you could come up with is to pull the covers over your head and pray for tomorrow. I mean, considering all the father/son issues, 43 isn’t likely to listen to 41 anyway. The jealousy/contempt/need for aproval exhibited by 43 must make the 41/43 relationship difficult, without Iraq and all the other mess 43 has created thrown into the mix.

  • Oh well, when do we get to the part where Shub blinds himself so he can’t see what a flustercuck he has made of everything? No wait, he’s already blinded by his own ignorance. Never mind.

    Comment by The answer is orange —

    It’s okay, man. Some are born to be ancient classical Greek playwrights and some aren’t. [smile]

    Wow. Bush as Greek Tragedy! I always saw him as a skit on Hee Haw.

    Oedipus will you let Rex out. He’s scratching at the door.

    Bonus: Guess the porn title of Oedipus.

  • I don’t feel sorry for 41 or his aides. They saw the writing on the wall and they kept their mouths shut while the nation went to hell. Among Republicans, loyalty is the only characteristic that matters regardless of the consequences. A father would rather protect his son’s position than the nation. They can all go to hell for all I care. Too little too late, assholes.

  • “Everyone knew how Rumsfeld acts”.

    I was always a little puzzled by the fact that Rumsfeld, who until mid-’03 or so was universally described as a brilliant strategist, tough manager, etc etc, held essentially zero high-level jobs in the Reagan & Bush I admins (except one-shot missions like the kiss-up to Saddam, etc).

    Now it turns out “everyone knew” he was an arrogant, incompetent, pig-headed jerk.

    Except the people, of course. Who gives a fuck about them?

  • The Bush family is on display for history to enshrine as the con men who brought down America.
    41 was the set up which allowed 43 to steal our treasure, constitution, and honor. They must share the notoriety as a family tag team.

  • Didn’t baby george’s immediate family laughingly describe him as the black sheep? that jeb was supposed to be the the one on the presidential path? can you even believe they had the hope that the twirp would suddenly sober up & become an adult? do any of them act like adults? no all they ever want is to keep the family in power and keep salting away ever more rainyday blood money.

    fuck this family whose self-generated delusions of entitlement enable genocide, who’ve sold out their nation the way down the line from prescott on and maybe even before, and whose bad-boy progeny needs to be brought before the world to answer for his war criminality.

  • May I add that the first Gulf war was preventable. Bush I gave Saddam the green light to invade through some tragic diplomatic snafoos. Our air force alone could have opened a can of whoopass on Saddams troops as they positioned for attack on Kuwait’s border. So, FUCKUP I lead to FUCKUP II. Why did Bush I get so much credit and glory for running Saddam’s ass out of Kuwait?

  • The entire Bush family gets away with their special blend of global denial because they can…I think it is time for the country, the world, to perform an intervention on the whole family…put ’em in rehab with Foley.

  • These whisperers from Bush 41 have zero credibility with me. Even now they dare not deliver their criticisms in anything but “Guess Who I Am” anonymity. They hope to preserve their “luster” for history; they still will not come out into the sunlight and tell the truth as they see it. They care more for their place in history than their country’s place in the here and now and the future. Of course, they excuse their cowardice by saying it would be disastrous for this country to have the credibility of its current President diminished and discredited any further. His weakness and irrelevence is deserved, but even I worry about the consequences of having a President who is perceived as both an idiot and a political eunuch by the rest of the world. They should have opposed him in 2004 to stop the insanity.

    I agree with those who say Poppy looks good only in comparison to his spawn. He constantly prattles on about how hard it is for him to hear the criticism of W. Well, boo hoo. It is much harder on the rest of us to have to live with the incompetence and terrible policies that are the fonts from which flow all the richly deserved (if hurtful to poor Poppy) criticisms of the one who was the instrument of 41’s “restoration.” The Bush family line has been terribly damaging to this country, and 41 had better keep his trap shut or 43 might rescind his executive order that is designed to keep 41’s papers from being scrutinized by the public. When that happens, the depth of the deception and failure will become more widely apparent.

  • B41’s frienship with Bill Clinton (co-operating on various charity efforts) has always struck me as “peculiar”; it was as if B41 was signalling he’d rather have Bill as his son… Not enough perhaps, but what father would publicly repudiate his son any more than that? And it must have been galling to B43

  • B41’s friendship with Clinton says more about Clinton than about B41.

    B41 as a President lacked a clear vision of where he wanted this country to go (that vision thing) and was largely seen by his Republican followers as a place-holder since Reagan couldn’t get elected to a third term. B41’s foreign policy was often dictated by conflicting values: witness the contrast of our humanitarian intervention in Somalia (which turned into something regretable) versus our invasion of Panama (which was bizarre) versus our invasion of Iraq (driven by the desire to strengthen our ties to several key OPEC states–remember, B41 spent a fair amount of time begging oil countries to sell cheaper).

  • 41 and Bar set the wheels in motion for 43 to continue the Bush ‘legacy.’ They thought if they surrounded Sonny with their crew then he couldn’t fuck up. Then 9/11 happened. My guess is that Bush and Cheney were so traumatized that it happened under their watch that they have been posturing and overcompensating ever since . Hence the free rein of Rummy, Cheney and their band of nutjobs (Wolfie, Perl…).

    What 43 is donig now is just a bigger version of this fuck ups with the baseball team and other business ‘deals.’ Shit his father set up that he proceeded to trash. It’s just all playing out on an international level now. No one should be surprised. But then we’re not talking about the most self aware group, are we?

  • “B41’s frienship with Bill Clinton (co-operating on various charity efforts) has always struck me as “peculiar”; it was as if B41 was signalling he’d rather have Bill as his son… Not enough perhaps, but what father would publicly repudiate his son any more than that? And it must have been galling to B43″ – libra

    Bill and Prince Bandar. I think that GHWB would have prefered to have both of them as sons compared to Boy George II and Neil.

    Jeb might not be such a disappointment, but who can say.

  • Nope. It’s all an act. Like FDR once said, “Nothing that happens in politics happens by accident.” It is all staged … why? is the question. I believe it is a pre-election strategy to bring all the old money back. By complaining, as 41 has done recently, that it will be just terrible for his son if the GOP loses the Senate and House, he is able to energize without supporting phase two of Desert Genocide, which will all go down in history as the futile attempt to hijack a country with oil.

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