Rumsfeld to face criminal prosecution?

A couple of years ago, a legal action was brought against Donald Rumsfeld in Germany, stemming from alleged wrongdoing in Iraq, including prisoner abuse. The Pentagon was livid, and Bush administration told German officials that the matter could adversely impact U.S.-German relations. Eventually, a German prosecutor announced he would not pursue the matter, leaving the issue to law-enforcement officials in the U.S. to consider. (Bush’s Justice Department wasn’t exactly interested in investigating Bush’s Defense Secretary.)

A new legal matter seems a little more serious. (thanks to K.K. for the tip)

New legal documents, to be filed next week with Germany’s top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers, for their alleged roles in abuses committed at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison and at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The plaintiffs in the case include 11 Iraqis who were prisoners at Abu Ghraib, as well as Mohammad al-Qahtani, a Saudi held at Guantanamo, whom the U.S. has identified as the so-called “20th hijacker” and a would-be participant in the 9/11 hijackings. As TIME first reported in June 2005, Qahtani underwent a “special interrogation plan,” personally approved by Rumsfeld, which the U.S. says produced valuable intelligence. But to obtain it, according to the log of his interrogation and government reports, Qahtani was subjected to forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, prolonged stress positions, sleep deprivation and other controversial interrogation techniques.

Lawyers for the plaintiffs say that one of the witnesses who will testify on their behalf is former Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, the one-time commander of all U.S. military prisons in Iraq. Karpinski — who the lawyers say will be in Germany next week to publicly address her accusations in the case — has issued a written statement to accompany the legal filing, which says, in part: “It was clear the knowledge and responsibility [for what happened at Abu Ghraib] goes all the way to the top of the chain of command to the Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.”

What about leaving the matter to U.S. law-enforcement officials again? That doesn’t appear to be an option this time.

For one thing, immunity according to high government officials won’t apply to Rumsfeld now that he’s stepping down as Defense Secretary. For another, the assumption that U.S. authorities would review and investigate the questions raised against Rumsfeld have proven to be wrong.

“The utter and complete failure of U.S. authorities to take any action to investigate high-level involvement in the torture program could not be clearer,” says Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a U.S.-based non-profit helping to bring the legal action in Germany.

He also notes that the Military Commissions Act, a law passed by Congress earlier this year, effectively blocks prosecution in the U.S. of those involved in detention and interrogation abuses of foreigners held abroad in American custody going to back to Sept. 11, 2001. As a result, Ratner contends, the legal arguments underlying the German prosecutor’s previous inaction no longer hold up.

I really doubt anything serious will come of this, but it’s worth keeping an eye on. For what it’s worth, the right will help keep us posted on developments — they’re already apoplectic about the charges.

I really doubt anything serious will come of this, but it’s worth keeping an eye on. For what it’s worth, the right will help keep us posted on developments — they’re already apoplectic about the charges.

LOL This should keep them popping those blood vessels. The nature of right-wing rage always seems so more coronary-friendly than left anger does.

I wonder if the court has any effective reach into the US. Guess Rummy won’t vacation on the Rhine any time soon.

I notice that Rummy tries to strike a Roosevelt pose when he can for pictures. The one in the Times of him with Bush just needed a cigarette holder in Rummy’s upthrust mouth to complete the historical illusion.

  • See what Bush’s romancing of German Chancellor Merkel has brought him?

    He shoulda’ kept his hands to himself.

    But seriously, why wouldn’t it “work”, at least to keep the culprits from traveling freely? Pinochet was caught that way.

  • Not just the Rhine… what if Rummy’s travelling to “New Europe” for a vacation and the Lufthansa flight gets re-routed into Frankfurt? Henny Penny!

    But I’m more worried about the seeming embrace of Gates by the Dems… a man who funded the Mujahideen that led to Al-Qaeda, a guy who lied under oath about his memory of Iran-Contra, and a guy who completely failed to forsee the fall of the USSR? Bad choice if you ask me…

    The only good thing going for him is that he may not bomb Iran. But that’s pretty much it.

  • The times they are always a-changin’. Sixty years ago, if you tried to tell someone that a German prosecutor wanted to press charges against America’s SecDef for human rights violations, they’d assume you’d gotten things exactly backwards.

    Dumping the blame on Karpinski was a huge mistake, I’m glad to see it is coming to haunt them.

  • Where would a German prosecutor get legal standing to try this case in a German court? The alleged crimes occurred either in Iraq or on Q=Guantanamo and were perpetrated by Americans. Were any of the plaintiffs/accusers German citizens? If none of the above, what law makes it possible for this case to proceed?

  • Unless I’m mistaken, I beleive anyone has standing under international law to bring charges for crimes against humanity

  • Chris

    Where would a German prosecutor get legal standing to try this case in a German court? The alleged crimes occurred either in Iraq or on Q=Guantanamo and were perpetrated by Americans. Were any of the plaintiffs/accusers German citizens? If none of the above, what law makes it possible for this case to proceed?

    From the linked article:

    Germany was chosen for the court filing because German law provides “universal jurisdiction” allowing for the prosecution of war crimes and related offenses that take place anywhere in the world. Indeed, a similar, but narrower, legal action was brought in Germany in 2004, which also sought the prosecution of Rumsfeld. The case provoked an angry response from Pentagon, and Rumsfeld himself was reportedly upset. Rumsfeld’s spokesman at the time, Lawrence DiRita, called the case a “a big, big problem.” U.S. officials made clear the case could adversely impact U.S.-Germany relations, and Rumsfeld indicated he would not attend a major security conference in Munich, where he was scheduled to be the keynote speaker, unless Germany disposed of the case. The day before the conference, a German prosecutor announced he would not pursue the matter, saying there was no indication that U.S. authorities and courts would not deal with allegations in the complaint.

    In bringing the new case, however, the plaintiffs argue that circumstances have changed in two important ways. Rumsfeld’s resignation, they say, means that the former Defense Secretary will lose the legal immunity usually accorded high government officials. Moreover, the plaintiffs argue that the German prosecutor’s reasoning for rejecting the previous case — that U.S. authorities were dealing with the issue — has been proven wrong.

    “The utter and complete failure of U.S. authorities to take any action to investigate high-level involvement in the torture program could not be clearer,” says Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a U.S.-based non-profit helping to bring the legal action in Germany. He also notes that the Military Commissions Act, a law passed by Congress earlier this year, effectively blocks prosecution in the U.S. of those involved in detention and interrogation abuses of foreigners held abroad in American custody going to back to Sept. 11, 2001. As a result, Ratner contends, the legal arguments underlying the German prosecutor’s previous inaction no longer hold up.

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html

    In addition, I believe that any signatory of the Geneva Conventions can prosecute individuals for war crimes if home their countries either cannot or will not do it. Bush has frantically tried to prevent the prosecution of any Americans through legislation that cannot possibly rescind the provisions of the Geneva Conventions, one with a provision that if any American is taken prisoner and held at the Hague (for an ICC trial), US troops will be sent to “rescue” the individual.

  • Oops! Try this:

    …I believe that any signatory of the Geneva Conventions can prosecute individuals for war crimes if their home countries either cannot or will not do it.

    =====

    And one more thing… Bush also required that several countries that have traditionally received aid from the US must not sign the treaty establishing and adhering to the provisions of the International Criminal Court in order to continue receiving US aid.

    Many cooperated with him, including Venezuela where he’s rumored to have bought property.

  • @ Chris: A couple of years ago, some Shoah survivors had sued German corporations in US court for compensation. Most of them were not US citizen. It is common practice today. You go were you have to, to get your right or more money.

    And the Law that makes such things possible in Germany, was developed after WWII with heavy influence of … ah you know who, right?

  • As Joe Galloway put it today:

    Simply put, the jig is up. President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld have come to the end of their free ride. No longer can they act without thought or ignore the boundaries of the Constitution, the law and common sense.

    Did they really think they could get away with all of this without ever being called to answer to history and the American people?

    They all deserve what’s about to descend on their heads. They deserve every subpoena. They deserve every indictment. Most of all, they deserve a reserved place atop the ash heap of history.

    That a German court has to prosecute an American official for crimes against humanity says everything that needs be said about how the nation of Roosevelt and Eisenhower and all the rest has fallen.

    But, like the Thousand-Year Reich, Bush’s Reign of Error only lasted 12 years. And was equally successful.

  • Clarified above, but in simpler more direct terms:

    “What about leaving the matter to U.S. law-enforcement officials again? That doesn’t appear to be an option this time.”

    From article: “”The utter and complete failure of U.S. authorities to take any action to investigate high-level involvement in the torture program could not be clearer,” says Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights”

    The law states that international action has to await prosecution within the affected country.

    They have standing because the lawyers represent these persons, and I believe a person of German nationality is among them.

    “But, like the Thousand-Year Reich, Bush’s Reign of Error only lasted 12 years. And was equally successful.” –Tom Cleaver

    Don’t count your chickens before they hatch. We still have to survive through February at the minimum.

  • Nothing will probably come of it, but as mentioned earlier the reich will go ballistic. Maybe they will use up a lot of their resources on it. Such courts and their decisions and enforcement depend on who really has the power. For now the inhumane Bush Administration does and would not hesitate to send in troops to rescue the most heinous neocon criminal. But the Bush Administration, and even others before it, have set the precident so in the future who knows.The US then would have no grounds for complaint. That could of course result in some consequences that would not be so pleasant or Just for all Americans. This makes it even more essential that we work for international justice.

  • Imagine if the German law enforcement folks decided to take a page from the US and exercise a little extraordinary rendition. If I were Rummy, I wouldn’t be takin’ no flights on Lufthansa.

  • As people who have read my other comments know, I am far from the right, but I’m pretty apoplectic too. I would favor Rumsfeld being tried by the Hague, yes, or in America, but see no right for a government to declare that they have ‘universal jurisdiction’ in a matter such as this. (Imagine a Conservative Clerical government coming to power in Italy and declaring it has ‘universal jurisdiction’ over ‘crimes against the unborn’ and similarly trying a government official for actions favoring abortion. Or an Islamic government trying the Danish government for failing to stop the cartoons.)
    Sovereignity has meaning, we don’t have a world government yet (it might be a good idea, but it doesn’t exist yet).
    And on a simple practical view, any U.S. government, no matter what they thought of Rummy, who did not act to protect him in such a case would be derelict in their duty. And nothig would win him and his policies more support here, or alienate the US further from Europe than a stunt like this.
    Sorry, but this is a BAD idea.

  • Since he’s confident of his innocence, he won’t hesitate to go to Germany for the trial, just to clear his name.

    Staying away would only be the option a guilty man would choose.

    We’ll soon see his choice.

    The Military Commiossions Act should have always been called by its real name: the Pre-emptive Presidential Pardons Act.

  • Second try again. Even with the copy-and-paste it’s a nuisance (with the original orange, I never had to do it. What’s with this one? Is it Cuban/Floridian rather than an Israeli/Californian?)

    Sorry, but this is a BAD idea. — Prup (aka Jim Benton), @ 14

    And a better one is… ?

    Rumsfailed (and Bu..$h.. and Dead-eye Dick and some others as well) needs to be pulled up short, pdq, or else he’ll be spouting inanities like “you go to war with the army you have” forever, thinking himself above all judgement.

    I don’t think this “case” is ever going to come to court. If it does, it won’t be in Germany; it’ll be in the Hague. But, as a bit of muscle-flexin’, saber-rattlin’ thee-ater, it’s *perfect* 🙂

    People in the States might not be generally aware of European “take” on things but the Germans — sure as sure — didn’t like to have their refusal to join US in the Iraq invasion interpreted as cowardice; they simply thought that US has lost its cotton-pickin’ mind and they weren’t going to give up their post WWII peaceful ways for such a cockamamie idea. And to be yoked as cowards with *France* (who also told US to go and take a leap)… Rubbing salt into an open wound 🙂

    Then they co-operated, on the sly, with US in the matter of renditions and such. Which the (German) public didn’t like one bit and disaffected voters in Europe (even in countries like Poland) are much more vocal and active about their displeasure than we are here. So some appeasement was in order.

    Asking for the case against Rummy to be reinstated is ideal. No danger that anything much will ever happen. The (German) public can see that Germany is not cowardly when principles are involved, and is willing to issue a rebuke to US when necessary (hey, you! we gave you over a year to procede and you’ve done squat). And Americans can enjoy a giggle when they think of all the places Rummy-tum-tum can no longer visit without thinking twice…

  • I say the United States should answer any BULL$HITE [sic] inditement from Germany with nuclear bombs to pay back the ungrateful bastards we liberated during World War 2. And then, that will stand as what the US postion is with the illegitimate ICC. Anybody bring war criminal charges on members of the former USSR, Cuba, Iran, etc.? No, and the world better learn not to tug on Superman’s cape and remember we are the good guys. Maybe we in the US should just become less of a world citizen and look out for ourselves along with any country that PROVES they are our allies. That would mean countries like Germany and France could go wither on the on vine without our help (i.e. MONEY)!

  • “That would mean countries like Germany and France could go wither on the on vine without our help (i.e. MONEY)!”

    First:
    What do you think we are, a fu…. third world land?!
    Get real! We don’t need nor receive money from you.

    Second:
    Germany, as a state, is not the prosecutor in this lawsuit, it is a private one.

    Third:
    “that PROVES they are our allies”

    Afghanistan any one? You fu… ungrateful little aargh
    During the time of the Iraq War, German Security had protected your bases here, so that your government had more free resources
    for your little adventure.
    That is just one thing we have done for you, there are actually many more things we have done.

  • Hi there,

    Some balancing remarks perhaps, from a dual US-German citizen (I love both countries because of their people and
    nature — not necessarily their politics).

    1) From what I understand, in most countries, including the US, if a prosecutor is presented with a lawsuit by any individual, he/she is required or at least obligated to follow
    up and launch an investigation, regardless of what anyone,
    including the German people in general, may think about it.
    In this case, the lawsuit has been filed by a number of people,
    most of whom are not German, with the help of US laywers
    and organizations. So, generalizing, in the way “Uncle Sam”
    did above, is short sighted, inappropriate and, frankly, dangerous. The question of whether it is appropriate for a
    German prosecutor to indicte Rumsfeld is mute. In general, anyone can be prosecuted from anywhere.

    2) By the way, “Uncle Sam”, talking the way you did may
    make people think that you, and the rest of the right-wingers,
    are just like the the people you have liberated us from 60
    years ago. The NAZIs LOVED people who talked like you
    do.

    3) The real problem here is that these types of situations
    drive former Allies apart, making it easier for others to take
    advantage of our weaknesses. Sometimes this happens by
    design, at the hands of a skillful Machiavellian politician and
    at other times it is simply the result of an unfortunate chain of
    events and circumstances without any particular planning
    that connects them.

    Lately, people seem to be unable to see the difference
    between these two possibilities and suspect the “others” to
    plot against them in a sort of sinister conspiracy. It’s a general
    lack of analytical reasoning skills that leads to such opinions,
    as voiced by “Uncle Sam” and countless others in the news
    media and elsewhere, creating a polarized environment,
    making us even more vulnerable. If one studies history a little
    bit, one finds that many great nations, empires, and alliences
    have crumpled, because of divisions within and a general
    distrust toward the “outside”. The USA is making that mistake
    right now!

    In this case (the Rumsfeld indictment), I don’t think that there
    is any real planning behind it (sorry…not a believer in
    conspiracy theories). I also don’t believe that there was any
    great conspiracy behind the prison abuses, just a lot of bad
    judgment by many individuals. I am not sure that Rumsfeld
    needs to be prosecuted (Note: I don’t like the guy at all), but
    I believe he and many other members of the current administration should have been fired a long time ago or,
    better yet, they should never have been elected in the first
    place.

  • Oh, one more thing “Uncle Sam”.
    If you go to the US State department web site you will find
    information about the US-German trade deficit and trade
    history. You will find that Germany imports many more
    products from the US than the US does from Germany, and
    that this has been the case for many decades.

    So, if there is anyone making money between Germany and
    the US, it’s the US. Whatever war debt we had with the USA
    has been paid back a long time ago and the US economy has
    made a lot of profit from the German market.

    This is true for many other countries as well, and I am getting
    a little tired of hearing people in the US talk about how they
    support everyone else around the world. I’ve got news for
    you: the US economy, as do many others, stands and falls with the money that comes in from other countries.

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